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has been, and will continue to be, used objectively in regards to those who have distinguished themselves in combat in service to a state. I do think that a paragraph about the issues relating to the word hero, and a link to an article on dubious individuals such as Revoloutionaries/terrorist's like
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Nothing is ever truely NPOV. An encyclopedia is trying to provide information in as unbiased a manner as possible. To ignore the common definition of war hero (someone who has distinguished themselves in military service to a state) and substitute your own paridigm (war is bad, non-state entities or
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the objections here are inadaquate. The list includes rommel and benidict arnold, both people who are disliked by some, and neither of which was on "our" (USA) side. Look up the word hero. Its not only POV, sometimes it is a historical fact. I find this attempt to remove a clearly encyclopedic
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Delete. The only diffeence between War Heroes and War Criminals is perspective. Perhaps all suicide bombers should be automatically included in the list; or possibly they should be totally ruled out. Or a compromise, include ours and delete their's. Definitely
176:. That's not really the common definition of war hero, though, is it? It just one which happens to be convenient for the purposes of arguing that this list might some day be neutral. Revolutionaries, for example, are 149:, and so excludes many that may be heros to the stateless (also, what of anarchist heroes?). As a pacifist, I might consider everyone on this list a criminal. I see no way of this list ever being NPOV. 77:
Keep. The first paragraph of the article answers your question. This article may need renaming, but the content is as worthy of Knowledge (XXG) as other such lists ;-). --
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How do you propose that the term hero will be defined to everyone's satisfaction? The current definition at the top of the article leans on recognition by a
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in its traditional meaning is meaningless, etc....) is counter to the utilitarian purpose of an encyclopedia. The word
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This page is preserved as an archive of the associated article page's "votes for deletion" debate (the forerunner of
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the common definition of war hero (someone who has distinguished themselves in military service to a state)
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This page is an archive of the discussion surrounding the proposed deletion of a page entitled
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article to be POV in itself (angry rant removed by author in respect for good taste).
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Delete, agree with original assertion that "hero" and "notable" are just too POV.
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is irredeemable POV. Similarly, I don't think it's a great idea to go creating
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not in military service to a state, but clearly can be war heroes (e.g.
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Please do not modify this page, nor delete it as an orphaned talk page
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Further comments not related to deletion should be made on the
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Delete, the labelling of someone as a hero is subjective.
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Or to put this another way, the reason we don't have
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Keep under an NPOV name like the one I moved it to.
62:The result of the debate was to keep the page. 8: 186:list of people notable for military service 157:persons are equivilent to states, the word 123:can be kept out of it. Otherwise, delete. 25: 84:Delete, cannot be NPOV. If kept, move to 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 184:). Why not just move this thing to 166:Osama or Che would be appropriate 46:List of people known as war heroes 24: 119:only if those who have committed 248:Keep. Add sources if you must. 188:and include the war criminals? 1: 269: 130:Delete. Irredeemably POV. 88:per naming conventions. -- 68:List of notable war heroes 252:00:58, Jan 7, 2004 (UTC) 245:21:22, Jan 6, 2004 (UTC) 192:11:47, 6 Jan 2004 (UTC) 170:10:39, 6 Jan 2004 (UTC) 142:09:56, 6 Jan 2004 (UTC) 74:05:29, 6 Jan 2004 (UTC) 238:17:58, 6 Jan 2004 (UTC) 228:13:33, 6 Jan 2004 (UTC) 215:12:14, 6 Jan 2004 (UTC) 153:10:25, 6 Jan 2004 (UTC) 134:09:44, 6 Jan 2004 (UTC) 127:07:39, 6 Jan 2004 (UTC) 121:Crimes against humanity 112:07:31, 6 Jan 2004 (UTC) 104:06:33, 6 Jan 2004 (UTC) 97:05:44, 6 Jan 2004 (UTC) 81:05:36, 6 Jan 2004 (UTC) 31:articles for deletion 201:List of evil people 197:List of good people 86:List of war heroes 57:rather than here. 41: 40: 260: 209:List of villains 117:List of Warriors 95: 26: 268: 267: 263: 262: 261: 259: 258: 257: 93: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 266: 264: 256: 255: 254: 253: 246: 239: 229: 222: 221: 220: 219: 218: 217: 216: 205:List of heroes 154: 135: 128: 113: 105: 98: 82: 39: 38: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 265: 251: 247: 244: 240: 237: 234: 230: 227: 223: 214: 210: 206: 202: 198: 194: 193: 191: 187: 183: 182:SimĂłn BolĂ­var 179: 178:by definition 175: 172: 171: 169: 164: 160: 155: 152: 148: 144: 143: 141: 136: 133: 129: 126: 125:Humus sapiens 122: 118: 114: 111: 106: 103: 99: 96: 91: 87: 83: 80: 76: 75: 73: 69: 66: 65: 64: 63: 59: 58: 56: 50: 49: 47: 36: 32: 28: 27: 19: 177: 173: 162: 158: 146: 61: 60: 52: 51: 43: 42: 34: 233:Maximus Re 115:Rename to 55:talk page 250:Rmhermen 226:Fuzheado 213:Onebyone 190:Onebyone 108:Delete. 243:Morwen 151:Bmills 132:Bmills 147:state 100:Keep 72:RickK 16:< 199:and 168:Jack 163:Hero 159:Hero 140:Jack 110:ping 102:Jack 79:Cyan 207:or 90:Jia 33:). 94:ng 37:. 236:x 48:.

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
articles for deletion
List of people known as war heroes
talk page
List of notable war heroes
RickK
Cyan
List of war heroes
Jia
ng
Jack
ping
List of Warriors
Crimes against humanity
Humus sapiens
Bmills
Jack
Bmills
Jack
SimĂłn BolĂ­var
list of people notable for military service
Onebyone
List of good people
List of evil people
List of heroes
List of villains
Onebyone
Fuzheado
Maximus Re
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