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67:- the latter basing their view on the size of the article at the time of their comment and the former based on predictions of article length in the future. Predictions of article size are weak arguments when dealing with articles that are not about scheduled events or clearly foreseeable coverage, for example if Lahouaiej-Boulel had survived the attack it would not require a crystal ball to know there would be extensive coverage about a trial or reasons why he could not stand trial. However he is dead and so this coverage will not happen, and so the future shape of the article is much less clear so I found the "merge now, possibly split later" comments the stronger. In total I found that around half the keep votes were either successfully refuted in whole or in part or were so weak as to not need refuting (there were only 3 explicit delete comments, and one of them was, while tragic, not relevant here). 59:. I know this is very much a non-standard closure, but there is a reason for it - numerically the outcome of this discussion is clearly in favour of merging, but we have to go deeper than that as AfD is not a vote. The reason for the merge !votes is almost universally because the subject is notable only for one event, although various policies and guidelines were mentioned they all boil down to not having notability outside of the context of the attack in Nice. A good proportion of the arguments to keep were based on comparisons with other perpetrators with articles of there own, particularly 75:'s last comment to the discussion from 2 days ago changing their !vote from merge to keep on the basis of then-breaking news. Accordingly I am closing this AfD with a note that there was a clear consensus in favour of merging, but to hold off merging for a few weeks or so. If after that time the article is still about it's current length and there isn't significant additional coverage, of e.g. subject's relationships with the (alleged?) accomplices, then a merge discussion will be worthwhile. 3248:- Some reports say that he was a suicide trying to pass off his death as a so-called Islamic attack. This kind of disguised suicide is not unusual in Western societies, but it does not have much of a media presence in Muslim cultures or with regard to Muslim people. If these reports prove to be true, it would also be relevant to discussions on terrorism elsewhere. Definitely keep for now until we know more. I would argue, keep period. 119: 3463:- Usually with articles like this it's more or less a paragraph on the "incident" and that's it and I assumed this was the case ... Turns out I was wrong & should've read the article first, Anyway the article looks to pass GNG so I don't see any valid reason for deletion and plus technically Merges should be discussed on the talkpage so Merging should be out of the question, Anyway keep. – 71:
article and the target article, and a straight copy would clearly overload the main article. However there is quite a bit of duplication, and so I mentally subtracted that and the result was very borderline - so much so that if this were a merge discussion I probably shy away from offering an opinion one way or the other. Closing this AfD though doesn't give me that luxury, so I am swayed by
3490:- There is a reason the public is so interested in the terrorist, his migration into France in recent years, etc.: the guy is the deadliest single terrorist in France. He is the Osama Bin Laden of France. Of course he should get his own page, just like Mohamed Atta, the leader of the WTC terrorist group does. Have people forgotten 9/11? 3164:- The content in the Bouhlel's article can fit into a section of the 2016 Nice attack article. In response to rationales above, we are not deleting valuable information via a merge, the attacker has no significance outside of the event, and merging just changes the location. Also suggesting a merge based on comments above and 3587:
The only reason not to do so is length, not a problem at this point with either article. A merge has the great advantage of putting all of the information in a single space; this murderer is notable for nothing else; and separate articles on murderers can lend themselves to use by people inclined to
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Which are all related events that are part of or arising from the aforementioned core events. These are not independent events. And the fact that we have all these articles just further goes to show that, when an event is of sufficient magnitude, it is common Knowledge (XXG) practice to have multiple
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as follows: The motivation for the crime or the execution of the crime is unusual—or has otherwise been considered noteworthy—such that it is a well-documented historic event. Generally, historic significance is indicated by sustained coverage of the event in reliable secondary sources which persists
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A person who is known only in connection with a criminal event or trial should not normally be the subject of a separate Knowledge (XXG) article if there is an existing article that could incorporate the available encyclopedic material relating to that person. Where there is such an existing article,
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Had I left it there, I would have just closed this as "merge" and moved on. However, there would be little point recommending a merge if it would just overwhelm the target article, particularly when most of the merge votes were actually "merge now, split again later if needed" so I had a look at this
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there's plenty of WP:POLICY above. No need to reiterate, but right now there is not enough information to justify, or split attention between two articles, and most readers are going to land on the event article first. Inb4 Breitbart posts an article about how WP wants to delete the page on this guy
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Sure, the article currently may not contain much more information than in the article for the Nice attacks, but it's only been a short while since the attack. Perpetrators of major terrorist attacks will often gather more media coverage for a long time after the attack, so trying to judge somebody's
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Isn't this comparison rather inapposite? Breivik survived his crime and was put on trial; more than half of his biographical article covers his criminal trial, a civil trial, and his prison life. Breivik also left a detailed manifesto, and discussion of it takes up significant space in his article.
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More and more information can be obtained overtime and before you know it, you will have enough information to create a lengthy article. It would be interesting to find out more about what his aim was, considering he wasn't a strict Muslim, according to the information currently known. He may not
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on article length grounds. If the amount of non-duplicated content increases in the next couple of weeks the article should almost certainly not be merged, if it does not then a merge discussion to confirm the consensus arrived at here (there could be other significant changes in the meanwhile) is
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Even in that case, I think he should only have an article in Knowledge (XXG) if he is relevant enough. I don't think he is. For example, in the case of the Tsarnaev brothers, I would also tend to think it should be merged, but I understand the Tsarnaev brothers became relevant for reasons derived
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The key difference between Bouhlel and all these other attacks is that these other perpetrators' articles actually offer a comprehensive biography of the subject, not just four sentences about what they were doing before the attack. There simply isn't enough known about Bouhlel to warrant his own
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have been relaxed to allow salacious details into the article, none of which appear even in summary form in the main article. Thirdly a large amount of content in the fork is still being created by copy-pasting new content from the main article without any attribution. the flow has not gone the
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My view is that considering the high death toll of the Nice attack and its corresponding significance, this justifies having a page solely for the attacker. I think this is the general rule that has been followed. For example, Ibrahim El Bakraoui, Khalid El Bakraoui, Najim Laachraoui and Mohamed
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article, making only the latter article too detailed. Therefore, keeping—and expanding—the article about MLB is the right way to go. God only knows how many people are—and will be—searching the Internet to get information about MLB, and Knowledge (XXG) is the right place to get this info.
2422:: Standard practice with articles about crimes and articles about their perpetrators. There's no indication this individual meets the standard for a standalone article. In the unlikely event that more information is uncovered unconnected with the attack in Nice, we can revisit this. —/ 2393:. This terrorist is not independently notable; his noteworthiness is inextricably bound up in the atrocity he committed. Moreover, splitting content is unwise because it creates duplication and forces readers to go to two pages when really they could just as adequately go to just one. 2859:
only killed one person and he has led quite a simplistic life but he has an article. One of Knowledge (XXG)'s qualities is consistency, so if you get rid of this article, you will have to get rid of articles for other terrorists or certain other killers, which would be pointless.
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That's speculative, is it not? Since the man is dead, he will never face trial, and although some details of the investigation may shed some light on his pathetic life, these would almost certainly be able to be included in the attack article in a paragraph or two, or less, yes?
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I have 3 further concerns about the fork article. Firstly it uses immoderate language not allowed in the main article: as an example the subject is described in the lede without sources as a terrorist, while investigations are still in their infancy. Secondly standards for
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There's nothing that an AfD can do to improve this article when nobody wanted to delete it in the first place. It seems more like this AfD was an accident, and instead was meant to be a discussion about merging (see the original user's comments at top about "deleting and
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Many of the users saying that the article should be merged simply states that he is not notable outside the Nice attack, and without any furter reasoning. Notability is based on guidelines not on WP:POV. Personal opinion and guidelines are two different
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is there precisely to show that "other stuff exiting" is not a valid rationale for anything on Knowledge (XXG), unless the other stuff exists because it is backed by policy (in which case, the rationale is the policy, and the stuff is just an example)?
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CRM#2 also says "Generally, historic significance is indicated by sustained coverage of the event in reliable secondary sources which persists beyond contemporaneous news coverage and devotes significant attention to the individual's role." It's
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from the Boston Bombings and not only for the Boston Bombings. Same with Anders Breivik. I think 84.161.244.187 was trying to imply the perpetrator was nobody previous to the attack, and has not done anything relevant apart from that. Per
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in case it is not clear above, there is consensus that Lahouaiej-Boulel is not notable independently of the attacks in Nice, but it is borderline wheher there is enough written about him in that context to justify a spinout article from
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As upsetting as this person may have become, the article mainly relates to a tragic event which should never be forgotten. As time goes by, more information should become available to make the article of a better in depth standard.
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potential future notability only a day after the attack seems far from productive. If given time and the article still doesn't have any information that warrants an independent article, it wouldn't be hard to just merge it back. --
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It is pretty stupid having a big afd banner on a prominent article for seven days especially since there is mainly keep or a merge. Close the discussion and reopen the merge discussion on the talk page.
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Seems like false equivalence, as the names you list were influential leaders of major terror attacks, and this is a (mostly) independent attacker apparently influenced by jihadist propaganda.
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Did one notable thing, then immediately died. Summarize in article about the notable thing, do not merge everything. If precedence means anything (and it shouldn't), follow that set by
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Unless something changes radically, there seems to be no content here that would not already merit inclusion in the attack article. So I cannot see the point of a separate article.
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I'm not trying to say it's not a major terror attack; the difference I'm trying to bring up is that the perpetrator here is different from the people you list.
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Isn't it possible to close an AfD before 7 days? It's obvious that the article should (and will) be kept. The real issue is whether it should be merged.--
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article of a main article about a perpetrator if this is made necessary by reasons of size (like with most spinouts). Is this not the case here?
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article. Only notable for committing the attack and anything pertinent about the perpetrator can be added there so there is no need to create a
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The attack is of sufficient magnitude that the perpetrator is clearly notable on his own, per clear prior precedent of other perpetrators like
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The subject of this article is not notable outside of the Nice attack, and the Nice attack article has not reached the 50KB size to justify a
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applies and as a purely practical matter we know it will make keeping the 'attack' and 'perp.' articles harder to patrol and keep aligned.
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A couple paragraphs is not "substantial" or "well-documented". Most of everything that is known about him is already in the main article.--
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and a Merge discussion going on at the same time. One is ongoing at the articles talk page. Either close this or the merging discussion.--
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for now, it's probable that the media will produce significant coverage for the individual similarly to the individuals behind the
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Bouhlel, by contrast, is dead; there will be no trial to cover. And he left no manifesto or other writing, as Breivik did.
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Changing my iVote. Reason is: today's news makes clear that he had accomplices,which makes a separate article functional.
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That's what I was getting at. Adolph Hitler has his own article, doesn't he? Doesn't mean he is a decent worthy person
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has killed way more people than a number of other perpretators about whom we have individual biographical articles, e.g.
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to determine whether more will come out. If more information surfaces, I may not object to creating a new article then.
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The standard for that sort of thing is "Strong Keep". Not saying you have to use it, but it's less likely to confuse.
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stand trial but does that really matter? Police caught him in the act and shot him, so he didn't get away with it.
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if media coverage of both the event and the individual's role grow larger, separate articles may become justified.
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If you came here because someone asked you to, or you read a message on another website, please note that this is
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Breivik had a notable trial, and then a notable imprisonment. Still could do more. This guy's done doing things.
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articles treating different aspects of an event, such as the subject of this AFD, the perpetrator of an event. —
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articles for reasons of space, and this article is pretty long and comprehensive to the point that it would be
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and other reasons mentioned in this discussion, I think this article shouldn't be deleted, but rather merged.
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Amedy Coulibaly also has his own page even though he was notable for his involvement in a singular event.
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No they weren't. Amedy Coulibaly and Anders Behring Breivik are both also known for one event, the
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These are clear precedents for an individual page. The proposed deletion should be removed/rejected
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That discussion should've closed by an admin but either way consensus here may be to Merge.... –
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beyond contemporaneous news coverage and devotes significant attention to the individual's role.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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84 dead and 303 injured, but some think this is not a major terror attack. Wow. Just wow.
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a "snow keep", as that would mean that virtually everyone opined for keeping. They did not.
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Do you really think this relatively large article can easily be slapped into a section of
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If we expect the article to grow twice the size then a size split may be justified.
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glorify criminals of his ilk, merging keeps the crime he is known for in context.
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However, you are invited to participate and your opinion is welcome. Remember to
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I used OTHER STUFF EXISTS with full knowledge that it is listed as one of the
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goes along with this, as for notability per others the crime is unusual. -
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They're stronger because they were central to more than one big event.
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of coverage. After the media coverage dies down, we can revisit this.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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without deleting anything and yet without making that article
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because they misunderstood the banner at the top of the page.
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no reason to give this garbage his own wikipedia article.
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel
talk page
deletion review
Anders Behring Breivik
WP:SIZE
E.M.Gregory
Thryduulf
talk
13:09, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
2016 Nice attacks
Thryduulf
talk
17:32, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
Not a vote
not a majority vote
policies and guidelines
consensus
assume good faith
sign your posts
single-purpose accounts
spa
canvassed
canvassed
sockpuppetry
csm
csp
Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel
Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel
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