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420:. The reasoning being that players at the highest international level are likely important enough in their home country to be covered in local publications, and so presumably sources exist to satisfy the GNG even if they don't readily appear in search results. The assumption that he'd be covered by local new sources is bolstered by him having been interviewed by the second largest newspaper in the country, and so the idea that sources with lower circulation and a limited online presence would have covered him does not seem far fetched. This isn't the ideal evidence, hence the weak keep, but based on my reading of 449:, no substantial secondary source has been found. A player runs through stock sports cliches along the lines of: 'It's a team effort', 'I'm just happy to be here', 'We gotta play 'em one day at a time', etc. Is that an indicator of notability, when printed in a major newspaper? I hesitate to assume that the 471:
is a raw deal for Mainul Islam. Many other sports define high levels of competition (other than just the highest) for which sports figures can be presumed notable. But not field hockey. This appears to be intentional on the part of the community. If one looks at Asian Games squads (the highest level
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Field hockey is an Olympic sport; that is the sport's highest level competition, where the world's 12 best teams compete. Bangladesh has never fielded a men's Olympic field hockey team and, currently ranked 34th, is unlikely to
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to reflect the fact that sports figures are likely to meet Knowledge's basic standards of inclusion if they have, for example, participated in a major international amateur or professional competition at the highest
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interview, so good work finding that. It contains a few sentences of analysis by the interviewer before becoming a primary source interview. Perhaps participants will feel that is enough. --
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I'm not up to speed on Bangladeshi news practices, so I can't speak to that. You make a good point that being near his peak finding sources shouldn't be this hard, but I'm also wary of
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at which Mainul Islam has played), they're a sea of red links except for countries who have qualified for the Olympics: India, Pakistan, Malaysia, China, and South Korea. (
369:. These days every periodical in Bangladesh also publishes online. Their online archives for 5-6 years ago may be weak, but the subject should be at the peak of his career 318: 599:. None of the sources in the article provide that (one link doesn't even mention him). There's no evidence he ever competed at the world championships or Olympics so 489: 485: 481: 477: 162: 241: 109: 245: 94: 135: 130: 269:. But there are hardly any mentions in secondary sources - ones that aren't first hand accounts by an observer of the event - as called for by the 169: 139: 445:
that some issue of it likely covered Maninul Islam. But we have no evidence of any such niche periodical, and after three years and an extensive
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source, in the context of what else we know about the player, makes me think the necessary sources exist not just out of hope but based on
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If this is kept, so be it, but short of stringing together all the primary source match reports, I don't see a way to make it more than a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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When there’s absolutely no evidence of notability you end up with one sentence “articles”.
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considering this is a player from a non-anglophone country in a niche sport. The
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consider the possibility of existent sources if none can be found by a search
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My search didn't find the significant independent coverage needed to meet
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interview is the tip of some iceberg trove of encyclopedic information.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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I am more convinced that the subject is notable than not.
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If we knew a difficult-to-access publication existed (
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