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263:). (In the MTV article) While he is only mentioned by name once, but it is clear that the rest of the article is talking about him. Also, International Business Times has showcased his content multiple times, discussing his videos and other news regarding GTA 5 updates (in google I was able to find dozens of examples, like
493:- I don't mean to badger you, but I have no idea what that is supposed to mean. It's so vague you could literally say that about any article in existence. That sounded more like you were answering a question about how AFD works in general. That doesn't explain your stance on this particular subject at all.
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I'm unaware that there is a clause in WP:GNG which says that anyone with lots of social media subscribers is notable enough for
Knowledge. Almost all the citations in this article relate to the briefest of namechecks in tech articles about a GTA 5 update. His leak of a license/serial key was again
538:. This source does not provide significant coverage about "MrBossFTW". If you read it, you see its says almost nothing about him. It's all about tips about playing GTA5, some of which are from him. This is not how we prove notability on Knowledge.
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In most of the sources provided, they seem to be less about him, and more about Grand Theft Auto 5, or his own first party sources. I'm not sure which of these is supposed to prove it meets the GNG...
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