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688:(userfying or moving back to draft namespace) be taken into consideration so that in the event that more coverage is discovered or written, the draft could have this information added to it and be resubmitted to AfC. In the event that that is the chosen course of action, I would not move it to the article namespace myself and would take the AfC route. I will continue to monitor for information at this time and will continue to do so for the remainder of the time that I am an editor on this site (the foreseeable future). In the event that nothing comes up by the end of that time, I would simply request deletion. Of course, if that is not ruled the consensus (that this article is not worthy of inclusion at this time) by the end of this discussion, please disregard this comment. -- 263:). (In the MTV article) While he is only mentioned by name once, but it is clear that the rest of the article is talking about him. Also, International Business Times has showcased his content multiple times, discussing his videos and other news regarding GTA 5 updates (in google I was able to find dozens of examples, like 493:- I don't mean to badger you, but I have no idea what that is supposed to mean. It's so vague you could literally say that about any article in existence. That sounded more like you were answering a question about how AFD works in general. That doesn't explain your stance on this particular subject at all. 198:
I'm unaware that there is a clause in WP:GNG which says that anyone with lots of social media subscribers is notable enough for Knowledge. Almost all the citations in this article relate to the briefest of namechecks in tech articles about a GTA 5 update. His leak of a license/serial key was again
538:. This source does not provide significant coverage about "MrBossFTW". If you read it, you see its says almost nothing about him. It's all about tips about playing GTA5, some of which are from him. This is not how we prove notability on Knowledge. 747:
to say "Though YouTube subscriber counts do not contribute to a subject's notability, most YouTubers with fewer than 1,000,000 subscribers and no other other claim to notability have not received sufficient coverage to be kept at AfD."
518:- the refspamming above does not prove notability. The MTV article is extremely short (5-6 sentences) and is mostly about the foolish act of publicly showing an activation code and getting it stolen in the process. Not exactly 167: 299:) which was a screenshot of a stats screen) for a date. If you would like the bit about his channel growth removed or have the one YouTube citation there (or Twitter/YouTube one in info box) replaced with 375:
In most of the sources provided, they seem to be less about him, and more about Grand Theft Auto 5, or his own first party sources. I'm not sure which of these is supposed to prove it meets the GNG...
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I agree this is not as strong of an article as we usually examine, but for the subject, I know there are often some leniencies on what can be considered enough. I wouldn't object to a Userification.
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coverage from what otherwise as the secondary sources. If there's a list of well known YouTube streamers (which we'd have to be very careful with), he'd be on it, but not as a standalone. --
120: 740: 602: 582:? As I pointed out, most are not actually focused around the subject. Please don't just automatically believe someone just because they slap 15 links in their statement. 332: 280:- and those were only the first two pages of results). Additionally, how is the majority of the coverage self-published? Only 4 of the 28 sources are from YouTube ( 235: 161: 934: 274: 270: 268: 398:
as although this isn't usually my field subject, I'm inclined to believe that there may be enough for an article relevant to the video games subject.
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templates, I would happily do that. As for the "briefest of namecheck" bit, the only references matching the "namecheck" bit slightly were
278: 663:, but it requires that the entities (be they individuals or another type of channel) have a Knowledge page or they would be reverted. -- 320: 127: 860: 276: 781:- see my comment above and link to essay. Unfortunately perhaps, YouTubers seldom gain much attention from the mainstream media. 60: 735:, a large number of subscribers on its own is no grounds for establishing notability. I have written an essay on the subject at 264: 684:
In the event that it is deemed the consensus to be that this article is not worthy of inclusion at this time, I request that a
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only briefly mentioned in a single sentence. The substantive 'coverage' is self published on YouTube or Twitter. Fails WP:GNG.
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You almost seem to be agreeing with me, but coming to the opposite conclusion. I'd go as far to say, as well as not meeting
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Which ones do you feel help meet the GNG in particular? Not sure what's fueling your inclination here...
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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because there is no significant coverage of the subject, just passing mentions.
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The sources to me all seem to be a matter of name-dropped but not
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the bit about the license key MTV wrote an entire article about (
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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These sources seem enough to warrant an article about him.
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, --
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Which sources in particular help the subject meet the
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The references are all of mentions of him, or 603:list of Video games-related deletion discussions 289:)(two of which is for stats on YouTube - even 236:list of Internet-related deletion discussions 188: 8: 933:Note: This debate has been included in the 601:Note: This debate has been included in the 234:Note: This debate has been included in the 215:Note: This debate has been included in the 935:list of People-related deletion discussions 659:The only list that I am aware of myself is 932: 600: 233: 214: 819:owing to a lack of significant coverage 737:Knowledge:WikiProject YouTube/Notability 329:an article mentioning him in more detail 331:- sort of as a summary I guess?), and 7: 24: 916:as articulated repeatedly above. 18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion 959:03:20, 22 September 2017 (UTC) 947:04:32, 16 September 2017 (UTC) 926:01:10, 16 September 2017 (UTC) 905:22:59, 15 September 2017 (UTC) 884:13:50, 15 September 2017 (UTC) 865:01:55, 15 September 2017 (UTC) 837:18:48, 14 September 2017 (UTC) 63:09:57, 23 September 2017 (UTC) 1: 812:01:27, 9 September 2017 (UTC) 791:12:39, 7 September 2017 (UTC) 758:12:32, 7 September 2017 (UTC) 722:02:49, 7 September 2017 (UTC) 698:23:08, 6 September 2017 (UTC) 673:01:04, 7 September 2017 (UTC) 644:20:03, 6 September 2017 (UTC) 617:19:07, 6 September 2017 (UTC) 594:18:35, 6 September 2017 (UTC) 567:17:21, 6 September 2017 (UTC) 550:15:12, 6 September 2017 (UTC) 505:16:00, 7 September 2017 (UTC) 486:03:22, 7 September 2017 (UTC) 461:18:35, 6 September 2017 (UTC) 437:13:37, 5 September 2017 (UTC) 417:04:46, 5 September 2017 (UTC) 387:00:09, 5 September 2017 (UTC) 371:14:59, 2 September 2017 (UTC) 345:01:04, 2 September 2017 (UTC) 247:03:44, 1 September 2017 (UTC) 228:03:43, 1 September 2017 (UTC) 209:23:53, 31 August 2017 (UTC) 997: 874:per Sergecross and CSC. -- 526:- they're articles about 969:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 802:or warrant a article. 296:) and 1 from Twitter ( 686:deletion alternative 327:(but they reference 957:fails notability. 891:This article fails 532:use him as a source 520:a detailed bio here 449:. 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