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404:. It is misleading; "nouthetic" counselling is in one sense a sort of Christian counselling, but its proponents draw a distinction between their approach and others. This is one reason why I tend to think that these several approaches would be better served by a single article, where their differences would appear in higher contrast. - 382:, as its article states, "draws upon psychology and Christian teaching." Nouthetic counseling, on the other hand, wants to use the Bible alone. Which means that the first sentence of this article as it currently stands ("Nouthetic Counseling is a form of Christian counseling") is misleading. 505:. To me this implies that at least one person significantly associated with the concept viewed it as a subset or synonym of Christian counseling. Per Smerdis of Tlön, even if it is one of several approaches, I think context would be improved by addressing them all in one article. 206:
of limited use, only two authors are cited and none of them appear to use the term as the primary means to identify what they are doing. ("Biblical" and "Christian counselling" appear to be the more obvious words mentioned in the article itself.)
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but very often Nouthetic counseling is used, not as a subset of "Christian counseling," but as an alternative to "Christian counseling".
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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books have the phrase "biblical counseling" in their titles. Which is why it's good to keep "Nouthetic" in
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article can deal with this and similar subtopics. Addressing this subtopic there will help avoid POV. (
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It is one of many notable Christian Counseling modalities which should be included in the Knowledge.
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could also work, but I think that article potentially is more broad than Chirsitian counseling.)
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Contested proposed deletion, not mine. This would appear to me to be a
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The Christian Counselor's Manual: The Practice of Nouthetic Counseling
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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used to refer to the theory and practice of people such as
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if there are aactually degrees in it, we need an article.
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