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487:. While AUUF can perhaps claim independent notability, the article really fails to convey that. Instead, the article was created to rehash the national headlines the congregation received once upon a time for about five minutes, over a practice which they had customarily carried out for decades anyway. And there the article continues to sit in essentially that same state, nearly five years later. Bet that if I AfD'ed it, "a mob" would show up to defend the article from deletion, yet these same editors wouldn't lift a finger to actually improve the article. Seen it with too many AfDs already. 64:. But that is a guideline, not a hard-and-fast policy. The verifiability requirements are met, and with a significant portion of the participants arguing that the recurring nature of subject, as documented by Arxiloxos, is sufficiently enduring, I have no choice but to declare that there is no consensus here. 721:
Passes the WP:GNG and WP:N.  WP:GNG does not discriminate based on the nature of the topic.  It is the Seattle Times, the Washington Post, National Public Radio, etc., that identify this topic as being worthy of attention.  The other issue is whether or not the topic fails WP:NOT.  As far as it being
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Already tried. I couldn't find anything available under the appropriate license. I haven't heard anything about its current status, but it's been a number of years since I've had any reason to fly or drive to Anchorage on the spur of the moment in the middle of winter. Therefore, if they're still
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1) Re: nom's mention of BLP concerns - as was previously mentioned on the talk page, Google Street View clean avoids that whole block. Never mind that it's not really so hard to find the damn thing anyway (two blocks away from where I lived for much of the 1990s), which revists the question "If the
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real information is elsewhere, then what do I need Knowledge for?" that I've asked too many times and have yet to receive a satisfactory answer for. 2) I would presume lasting significance to be one of the measuring sticks for an article to remain a part of the encyclopedia. Billy Ray Powers
635:- Can you clarify your statement? The sources meet reliability, or are you claiming that publications like the Washington Post and Seattle Times are unreliable? The sources meet significant coverage being the main topic of these articles or are claiming that the 756:
building it, I need a better reason to go there than just to get a photo. Since much of nothing has been spoken of its current status, it may require something approaching real work to figure things out should I happen to have reason/opportunity to travel there.
483:, Powers received all of 133 votes (0.23%) out of over 58,000 cast for his trouble. Not what I would consider lasting significance. Now, as for Bwilkins's comment, compare this with another Anchorage-related article, that of the 722:
indiscriminate info, I don't see any complaints here that we already have too many articles about Alaskan artwork that has attracted sufficient attention over a period of years so as to be declared a public nuisance.
535: 349:, which I quote here: "As silly as it is, this snowman has garnered notoriety, and has been covered in press beyond its own locality of Anchorage, and that coverage has been sustained over multiple years. See 195: 56:, for this is mostly a "fun news" story, albeit one that has been recurring for a few years. This argument has a great deal of merit, and indeed my personal view is that the subject does not pass the 94: 380:. It's unfortunate that no one added these sources to the article after the first AfD closed, but the coverage exists, and has been extensive, recurring, and not merely regional. -- 398: 148: 453:. A big snowman that gets mentioned as the "joke/light" news elsewhere is not worthy, and serves to demean the residents of the community rather than be a serious article ( 664:
which could use some more examples of large snowmen. The Guinness Book of Records tracks this and the previous record holder, Angus, had the following impressive stats:
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as well. This isn't a hoax and I'm not seeing evidence of a violation of BLP or that this article is being used a coatrack to demean the community's residents.
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All the sources Arxiloxos listed, except perhaps for the Charlotte Observer (which 404s), are in-depth and reliable, and as a result any two would reach
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No reliable sources. No claim to notability. BLP concern related to Billy Powers. At best a local news item in a small town, if it is not a hoax.
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a giant snowman in the desert and doused it in gasoline and set it on fire while thousands of people had a big party around it every year
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would seem to be based on the story. As Arxiloxos has shown, coverage is persistent and has geographical scope, making this meet
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Suggestion to improve article: add photos of Snowzilla. It would add to the credibility of the topic.--
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OK, we have a an article about A BIG SNOWMAN IN SOMEONE'S YARD???? Look, even if this showed up on teh
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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this does not have lasting effect and there is no depth of coverate or Geographical scope. -
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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show during the weather segment, it isn't notable. Maybe if someone built
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Can't say I'm impressed with the article, but it meets the guidelines.--
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ran for mayor of Anchorage in response to all the publicity he received
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criteria, for I think a stories like this fall into the category of
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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guide lines and is really not fit for inclusion. As per
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6 ft. of chicken wire & muslin for the carrot nose
202: 52:. The most relevant argument for deletion is probably 583:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 399:list of Architecture-related deletion discussions 43:). No further edits should be made to this page. 835:). No further edits should be made to this page. 230:(previous AFD exists) Reason given in PROD was: 95:Articles for deletion/Snowzilla (2nd nomination) 216: 8: 421:Note: This debate has been included in the 397:Note: This debate has been included in the 485:Anchorage Unitarian Universalist Fellowship 423:list of Alaska-related deletion discussions 782:. I'm suspicious of the applicability of 420: 396: 511:Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Snowzilla 615:requirements, and it is just a snowman. 345:. For the reason stated by Whpq in the 87: 286:, then it might be notable. Not this. 251:as prodder. Do we have any standards? 639:is actually about something else? -- 7: 86: 671:Height 113 ft. & 7 inches tall 24: 695:3 skidder tires for the buttons 686:6 automobile tires as the mouth 662:Snowman#World's largest snowman 90:Articles for deletion/Snowzilla 18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion 1: 814:04:23, 1 February 2013 (UTC) 793:05:04, 31 January 2013 (UTC) 769:07:28, 30 January 2013 (UTC) 751:06:49, 30 January 2013 (UTC) 732:02:29, 26 January 2013 (UTC) 713:08:19, 23 January 2013 (UTC) 649:04:24, 23 January 2013 (UTC) 628:02:56, 23 January 2013 (UTC) 592:00:59, 23 January 2013 (UTC) 564:23:01, 21 January 2013 (UTC) 523:19:17, 21 January 2013 (UTC) 500:05:34, 21 January 2013 (UTC) 467:11:05, 16 January 2013 (UTC) 439:10:23, 16 January 2013 (UTC) 415:10:23, 16 January 2013 (UTC) 390:23:33, 15 January 2013 (UTC) 373:." 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