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336:: 1. Sender's work on the Obama logo is widely cited in the graphic design community; 2. Similarly, the design of the logo is considered a significant departure from previous presidential campaign identities; 3. There have been multiple mentions in periodicals such as the New York Times, as well as trade publications; 4. The logo is featured in the most recent edition of the textbook 204:). He does indeed have a decent amount of news coverage (though a surprisingly large amount of the GNews archive was false positives, like the Sol Sender who was killed in an Indiana bus crash in 1955). However, unless I'm missing some significant coverage not related to the logo, this seems to me like a pretty clear 348:
doesn't seem to provide much of a bright line for determining whether "the event is significant" and whether "the individual's role within it is substantial". It seems pretty clear that Sender's role in the development of the logo was substantial. Is the logo itself significant event to warrant
372:, and Sender's role in creating it is well covered. Is there anything else about his biography that needs to be contained in an encyclopedia of global scope? You're right that the logo is significantly covered in secondary cources, but that doesn't mean anything about Sender's 367:
That's certainly a reasonable viewpoint. To my thinking, the issue is that although Sender designed a well-known logo, there's really not much to say about him beyond that—as the article currently reflects. There's already
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I'm a relatively inexperienced editor, and I'm not sure whether I'm meant to weigh in, since I created the page in the first place, but looking at the arguments here, I'm on the fence and leaning slightly towards
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inclusion? From the point-of-view of the graphic design world, I lean toward yes. From the point-of-view of the general encyclopedia population, I guess I don't know. --
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is covered in secondary sources; it's not as though he's suddenly become independently notable. Maybe redirecting his name to
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I don't think 1E is so clear-cut when the one event is the creation of a work that's significant enough, for example writing
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makes the most sense (a merge would be unnecessary because the relevant info is already there). Thanks for your reply--
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
344:. On the other hand, it's definitely true that Sender is known only for one thing; however the guideline for 314: 145: 391: 219: 141: 463: 446: 415: 397: 358: 322: 272: 246: 225: 66: 302: 459: 411: 354: 238: 177: 191: 333: 308: 268: 49: 29:
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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This is the guy who designed the Barack Obama O-shaped campaign logo (
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is significant and is not included in the logo article (nor in the
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per Ethicoaestheticist's good research as above. This information
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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per Ethicoaestheticist, seems particularly significant to me...
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article at the moment). It reinforces independent notability.
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features it in a round up of visual culture in 2008
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