1132:, which says "If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability". There are two mid-length articles largely about her, and many more shorter articles, reviews or sections in articles about artists/groups she performed with. (I don't know why her brother Richard Dworsky is redirected to A Prairie Home Companion - I found some lengthy coverage about him (and about her other brother Alan) when I was searching for her.
998:
neither inherited nor inherent" (my emphasis), and "four of the notability guidelines, for creative professions, books, films and music, do allow for inherited notability in certain circumstances". Writing a notable song is one circumstance where notability may be inherited.
1127:
goes to the composer and lyricist, not the performers, two songs in which she sang won that award, in 1995 and 1999. There was certainly newspaper coverage of her singing in those films. I would say that she also meets
206:
990:#1 "Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a notable composition." All of this could be added to the article. Also, I don't think that "Notability isn't inherited" applies here.
974:, and other shorter newspaper articles). She has been in two groups - Moore by Four, and Uma, and reviews of their albums and shows include some reviews of her performances. I also note that the song
1153:
as the article has been significantly improved since the AFD nomination including extra sourced content and additions of references to reliable sources coverage so deletion is no longer necessary
264:
446:
290:
821:
points out, there's no real article about her brother, either. What a mess. I think she's very borderline, but I wanted to see what I could find and I did turn up a little.
394:
200:
420:
472:
159:
516:
368:
316:
1116:
983:
342:
106:
91:
512:
1124:
979:
166:
1042:
Notability is about the subject of the article, not the content. The fact that an article can be improved is not a reason to delete it.
132:
127:
136:
514:
597:
532:
86:
79:
17:
933:
767:
650:
508:
119:
740:
I think that this information about her could be incorporated into her brother's article and her article can redirect there.
221:
611:, I've tried searching but I couldn't find any in Google News or Google beyond one or two sentence mentions of her roles --
510:
945:, yes but there's little media cover about her. While her work might be notable, she isn't. Notability isn't inherited. --
188:
546:, they seem just passing mentions on the films and don't cover particularly in-depth about what she do and who she is. --
1187:. Improved beyond all recognition compared with the bare-bones under-referenced list-type article which was nominated.
100:
96:
1081:
57:
1213:
1111:
I have edited the article and added the sources and information I found. As I said above, I think that she meets
942:
929:
874:
826:
818:
763:
747:
40:
182:
1115:#1 "Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a notable composition," having co-written
504:
1027:
956:
897:
849:
798:
724:
674:
622:
557:
486:
460:
434:
408:
382:
356:
330:
304:
278:
252:
1196:
1179:
1162:
1141:
1137:
1101:
1072:
1051:
1047:
1031:
1008:
1004:
991:
960:
937:
901:
878:
853:
830:
802:
771:
751:
728:
705:
678:
655:
626:
603:
561:
538:
490:
464:
438:
412:
386:
360:
334:
308:
282:
256:
178:
61:
1209:
1192:
1158:
53:
36:
838:, I agree. While she's in some major films I can't find significant content about her specifically. --
971:
883:
870:
835:
822:
784:
743:
701:
228:
591:
526:
214:
1175:
1112:
1096:
1068:
987:
762:
Her brother's "article" is a redirect to the cast of
Prairie Home Companion. No use going there.
646:
123:
1016:, but as it stands the article is just a list of her performances with a paragraph about her. --
506:
1133:
1043:
1013:
1000:
238:
75:
29:
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
1208:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
35:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
1188:
1154:
975:
241:
and I could find no third party sources covering her extensively (beyond passing mentions).
194:
1129:
710:
697:
689:
576:
866:
814:
1023:
952:
893:
845:
794:
720:
670:
618:
608:
583:
553:
543:
518:
482:
456:
430:
404:
378:
352:
326:
300:
274:
248:
1171:
1150:
1092:
Please focus only on reliable sources covering the subject (not a relative) in depth.
1064:
693:
660:
642:
115:
67:
153:
580:
502:
1017:
946:
887:
860:
839:
809:
788:
742:
I found an article about her brother where he's written music for her, etc.
738:
I did find a half-way decent write up of her. I've added it to the article.
714:
664:
612:
572:
547:
476:
450:
424:
398:
372:
346:
320:
294:
268:
242:
688:
The article has been lacking reliable sources which it has failed to meet
886:, hmm this is a weird one. I suspect most of the sources are offline. --
869:
discusses her career, where she lives and her connection to her brother.
575:, fair enough. I would think she would be notable as the equivalent of a
1123:
awards for most-performed songs two years running). Also, although the
970:
There is a lot more biographical info in the sources (the one added by
928:; as noted above, she has extensive film, record and radio credits.
787:, the articles don't cover her specifically but more of her music --
1120:
1204:
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
1084:
to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
924:. Found an entry for "Dworsky, Sally" in the published book
265:
list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions
501:
a lot of her singing for the major films are referenced.
447:
list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions
291:
list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions
978:, sung by Sally Dworsky and Michelle Pfeiffer, won the
640:. Film, record and radio credits add up to notability.
149:
145:
141:
1018:
947:
888:
840:
789:
715:
665:
613:
548:
477:
451:
425:
399:
373:
347:
321:
295:
269:
243:
213:
1095:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
237:This singer doesn't seem to meet the criteria of
43:). No further edits should be made to this page.
1216:). No further edits should be made to this page.
471:Note: This discussion has been included in the
445:Note: This discussion has been included in the
419:Note: This discussion has been included in the
393:Note: This discussion has been included in the
367:Note: This discussion has been included in the
341:Note: This discussion has been included in the
315:Note: This discussion has been included in the
289:Note: This discussion has been included in the
263:Note: This discussion has been included in the
395:list of Television-related deletion discussions
1170:. Outstanding job by those who improved it.
926:Disney Voice Actors: A Biographical Dictionary
663:, but there's no third party source covers. --
421:list of Minnesota-related deletion discussions
473:list of Religion-related deletion discussions
227:
8:
107:Help, my article got nominated for deletion!
579:, and have some more news articles as with
713:, you mean disagree. He voted for keep. --
470:
444:
418:
392:
369:list of Music-related deletion discussions
366:
340:
317:list of Women-related deletion discussions
314:
288:
262:
1117:That's as Close as I'll Get to Loving You
984:That's as Close as I'll Get to Loving You
343:list of Film-related deletion discussions
7:
1125:Academy Award for Best Original Song
980:Academy Award for Best Original Song
986:, which could mean that she meets
24:
92:Introduction to deletion process
18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion
1:
994:actually says "notability is
817:article is about her. But as
982:in 1999. She also co-wrote
82:(AfD)? Read these primers!
1233:
752:20:46, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
729:14:42, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
706:10:04, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
679:07:18, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
656:01:22, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
627:07:17, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
604:00:30, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
562:00:25, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
539:00:23, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
491:00:00, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
465:00:00, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
439:23:59, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
413:23:59, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
387:23:59, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
361:23:59, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
335:23:59, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
309:23:59, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
283:23:59, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
257:23:58, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
1206:Please do not modify it.
1197:16:48, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
1119:(for which she also got
62:23:41, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
32:Please do not modify it.
1180:12:21, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
1163:16:13, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
1142:16:06, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
1102:06:10, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
1073:15:32, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
1052:14:49, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
1032:14:41, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
1009:11:24, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
961:00:38, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
938:23:45, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
902:18:57, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
879:18:48, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
854:00:40, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
831:23:32, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
803:23:21, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
772:22:52, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
1063:Subject is notable. -
1026:) β If (reply) then (
955:) β If (reply) then (
896:) β If (reply) then (
848:) β If (reply) then (
797:) β If (reply) then (
723:) β If (reply) then (
673:) β If (reply) then (
621:) β If (reply) then (
556:) β If (reply) then (
485:) β If (reply) then (
459:) β If (reply) then (
433:) β If (reply) then (
407:) β If (reply) then (
381:) β If (reply) then (
355:) β If (reply) then (
329:) β If (reply) then (
303:) β If (reply) then (
277:) β If (reply) then (
251:) β If (reply) then (
80:Articles for deletion
943:Mary Mark Ockerbloom
930:Mary Mark Ockerbloom
819:Mary Mark Ockerbloom
764:Mary Mark Ockerbloom
692:, as I agreed with
1090:Relisting comment:
588:
523:
1104:
1100:
584:
519:
493:
467:
441:
415:
389:
363:
337:
311:
285:
97:Guide to deletion
87:How to contribute
1224:
1099:
1094:
1087:
1085:
976:When You Believe
864:
813:
654:
600:
594:
587:
535:
529:
522:
232:
231:
217:
169:
157:
139:
77:
34:
1232:
1231:
1227:
1226:
1225:
1223:
1222:
1221:
1220:
1214:deletion review
1105:
1080:
1078:
992:WP:NOTINHERITED
972:Megalibrarygirl
884:Megalibrarygirl
871:Megalibrarygirl
858:
836:Megalibrarygirl
823:Megalibrarygirl
807:
785:Megalibrarygirl
744:Megalibrarygirl
641:
598:
592:
585:
577:playback singer
533:
527:
520:
174:
165:
130:
114:
111:
74:
71:
48:The result was
41:deletion review
30:
22:
21:
20:
12:
11:
5:
1230:
1228:
1219:
1218:
1200:
1199:
1182:
1165:
1144:
1093:
1088:
1077:
1076:
1075:
1057:
1056:
1055:
1054:
1037:
1036:
1035:
1034:
965:
964:
963:
915:
914:
913:
912:
911:
910:
909:
908:
907:
906:
905:
904:
865:I'm confused.
779:
778:
777:
776:
775:
774:
755:
754:
733:
732:
731:
683:
682:
681:
634:
633:
632:
631:
630:
629:
567:
566:
565:
564:
495:
494:
468:
442:
416:
390:
364:
338:
312:
286:
235:
234:
171:
110:
109:
104:
94:
89:
72:
70:
65:
46:
45:
25:
23:
15:
14:
13:
10:
9:
6:
4:
3:
2:
1229:
1217:
1215:
1211:
1207:
1202:
1201:
1198:
1194:
1190:
1186:
1183:
1181:
1177:
1173:
1169:
1166:
1164:
1160:
1156:
1152:
1148:
1145:
1143:
1139:
1135:
1131:
1126:
1122:
1118:
1114:
1110:
1107:
1106:
1103:
1098:
1097:Seraphimblade
1091:
1086:
1083:
1074:
1070:
1066:
1062:
1059:
1058:
1053:
1049:
1045:
1041:
1040:
1039:
1038:
1033:
1029:
1025:
1021:
1020:
1015:
1012:
1011:
1010:
1006:
1002:
997:
993:
989:
985:
981:
977:
973:
969:
966:
962:
958:
954:
950:
949:
944:
941:
940:
939:
935:
931:
927:
923:
920:
919:
918:
903:
899:
895:
891:
890:
885:
882:
881:
880:
876:
872:
868:
862:
857:
856:
855:
851:
847:
843:
842:
837:
834:
833:
832:
828:
824:
820:
816:
811:
806:
805:
804:
800:
796:
792:
791:
786:
783:
782:
781:
780:
773:
769:
765:
761:
760:
759:
758:
757:
756:
753:
749:
745:
741:
737:
734:
730:
726:
722:
718:
717:
712:
709:
708:
707:
703:
699:
695:
691:
687:
684:
680:
676:
672:
668:
667:
662:
659:
658:
657:
652:
648:
644:
639:
636:
635:
628:
624:
620:
616:
615:
610:
607:
606:
605:
601:
595:
589:
582:
578:
574:
571:
570:
569:
568:
563:
559:
555:
551:
550:
545:
542:
541:
540:
536:
530:
524:
517:
515:
513:
511:
509:
507:
505:
503:
500:
497:
496:
492:
488:
484:
480:
479:
474:
469:
466:
462:
458:
454:
453:
448:
443:
440:
436:
432:
428:
427:
422:
417:
414:
410:
406:
402:
401:
396:
391:
388:
384:
380:
376:
375:
370:
365:
362:
358:
354:
350:
349:
344:
339:
336:
332:
328:
324:
323:
318:
313:
310:
306:
302:
298:
297:
292:
287:
284:
280:
276:
272:
271:
266:
261:
260:
259:
258:
254:
250:
246:
245:
240:
230:
226:
223:
220:
216:
212:
208:
205:
202:
199:
196:
193:
190:
187:
184:
180:
177:
176:Find sources:
172:
168:
164:
161:
155:
151:
147:
143:
138:
134:
129:
125:
121:
117:
116:Sally Dworsky
113:
112:
108:
105:
102:
98:
95:
93:
90:
88:
85:
84:
83:
81:
76:
69:
68:Sally Dworsky
66:
64:
63:
59:
55:
51:
44:
42:
38:
33:
27:
26:
19:
1205:
1203:
1184:
1167:
1146:
1134:RebeccaGreen
1108:
1089:
1079:
1060:
1044:RebeccaGreen
1014:RebeccaGreen
1001:RebeccaGreen
995:
967:
925:
921:
916:
867:This article
739:
735:
685:
637:
498:
236:
224:
218:
210:
203:
197:
191:
185:
175:
162:
73:
49:
47:
31:
28:
1189:Narky Blert
1155:Atlantic306
1113:WP:COMPOSER
988:WP:COMPOSER
581:Lea Salonga
201:free images
711:Sheldybett
698:Sheldybett
239:WP:NSINGER
1210:talk page
609:AngusWOOF
586:AngusWOOF
544:AngusWOOF
521:AngusWOOF
54:T. Canens
37:talk page
1212:or in a
1172:Kablammo
1130:WP:BASIC
1082:Relisted
1065:Ret.Prof
1024:π£οΈ Talk
953:π£οΈ Talk
894:π£οΈ Talk
846:π£οΈ Talk
795:π£οΈ Talk
721:π£οΈ Talk
694:Eastmain
690:WP:NFILM
671:π£οΈ Talk
661:Eastmain
651:contribs
643:Eastmain
619:π£οΈ Talk
554:π£οΈ Talk
483:π£οΈ Talk
457:π£οΈ Talk
431:π£οΈ Talk
405:π£οΈ Talk
379:π£οΈ Talk
353:π£οΈ Talk
327:π£οΈ Talk
301:π£οΈ Talk
275:π£οΈ Talk
249:π£οΈ Talk
160:View log
101:glossary
39:or in a
1149:as per
1028:ping me
996:usually
968:Comment
957:ping me
898:ping me
850:ping me
799:ping me
736:Comment
725:ping me
675:ping me
623:ping me
558:ping me
499:Comment
487:ping me
461:ping me
435:ping me
409:ping me
383:ping me
357:ping me
331:ping me
305:ping me
279:ping me
253:ping me
207:WPΒ refs
195:scholar
133:protect
128:history
78:New to
1151:WP:HEY
686:Delete
179:Google
137:delete
1121:ASCAP
1061:Keep:
599:sniff
534:sniff
222:JSTOR
183:books
167:Stats
154:views
146:watch
142:links
16:<
1193:talk
1185:Keep
1176:talk
1168:Keep
1159:talk
1147:Keep
1138:talk
1109:Keep
1069:talk
1048:talk
1019:Tyw7
1005:talk
948:Tyw7
934:talk
922:Keep
917:β
889:Tyw7
875:talk
861:Tyw7
841:Tyw7
827:talk
815:This
810:Tyw7
790:Tyw7
768:talk
748:talk
716:Tyw7
702:talk
666:Tyw7
647:talk
638:Keep
614:Tyw7
593:bark
573:Tyw7
549:Tyw7
528:bark
478:Tyw7
452:Tyw7
426:Tyw7
400:Tyw7
374:Tyw7
348:Tyw7
322:Tyw7
296:Tyw7
270:Tyw7
244:Tyw7
215:FENS
189:news
150:logs
124:talk
120:edit
58:talk
50:keep
229:TWL
158:β (
1195:)
1178:)
1161:)
1140:)
1071:)
1050:)
1030:)
1007:)
959:)
936:)
900:)
877:)
852:)
829:)
801:)
770:)
750:)
727:)
704:)
696:.
677:)
649:β’
625:)
602:)
596:β’
560:)
537:)
531:β’
489:)
475:.
463:)
449:.
437:)
423:.
411:)
397:.
385:)
371:.
359:)
345:.
333:)
319:.
307:)
293:.
281:)
267:.
255:)
209:)
152:|
148:|
144:|
140:|
135:|
131:|
126:|
122:|
60:)
52:.
1191:(
1174:(
1157:(
1136:(
1067:(
1046:(
1022:(
1003:(
951:(
932:(
892:(
873:(
863::
859:@
844:(
825:(
812::
808:@
793:(
766:(
746:(
719:(
700:(
669:(
653:)
645:(
617:(
590:(
552:(
525:(
481:(
455:(
429:(
403:(
377:(
351:(
325:(
299:(
273:(
247:(
233:)
225:Β·
219:Β·
211:Β·
204:Β·
198:Β·
192:Β·
186:Β·
181:(
173:(
170:)
163:Β·
156:)
118:(
103:)
99:(
56:(
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.