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their has been significant third-party coverage from RS. Being quoted by one publication while speaking at a function for your own paper doesn't meet the bar for me. However I really don't want to come off as being argumentative here, and I may be biased by the cut/paste spam&copyvio start of the article. If she is indeed notable and the only difficulty we are having is because of regional search results then I'm happy for the article to survive. I just personally don't have the language skills to confirm that, so hopefully others with those skills will be able to chime in.
303:, which is itself a notable publication. There are regional differences in return of search results, especially since many of the articles regarding this author will be in a language other than English. Even if that were not the case, non trivial mention in 3 notable, reliable press outlets meets notability requirements. -- 466:- I've listed this article at the Saudi Arabia portal and Journalism portal for additional feedback from editors more familiar with Saudi Arabian journalism. Also, please keep in mind that there are only 2 newspapers within Saudi Arabia which are printed in English, and the subject of the article works for one of them. -- 267:
self promotional, no-notable, originally a cut/paste from facebook. Noble effort to save the article, but still nothing there. It's not the quantity of ghits but the quality that matters.If we are going to rely on simple ghits to judge notability we are in trouble, as it is misleading. If you run
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for one of the few magazines allowed to publish in Saudi Arabia, makes her a much bigger fish in a small pool. The amount of info we are seeing about this reporter is actually a testament to the level of notoriety she has achieved in the international community. While we may never get a slam dunk on
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Writing articles for a notable publication does not confer notability. The Saudi Gazette reference is not a third-party reference. The other three references I would indeed call trivial, but regardless, of trivial-or-not the threshold of notability is not that they are non-trivial, but rather that
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Thank you for your open mind. I have been hammered on these boards for being West-centric in regards to my thresholds of notability, so I've learned to look for "aggregates of information" when dealing with Asian countries. Also, "journalism", as we know it, does not exist in Saudi Arabia (see
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so do i 've to inform the writers and journalists from saudi arabia to take part in this disscussion? because nobody knows about this article in wikipedia until now. what is the best way to inform the people? i sent this article to madam sameera at her official e-mail ID <redacted:
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at an international symposium are not "quality" mentions? There are over 100 articles online which were written by this journalist for the
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a simple quoted version of her name you get about 4500 ghits - but as you scroll through to subsequent pages the number reduces to 170
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on the basis of the sources, but the article is by no means a good one. I did a bit of trimming, and there's more needed. `
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Updated to keep based on work done to the article and sources discovered by OliverTwisted.
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Shameless spamvertisement for journalist, unsalvageably hagiographic.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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notability, do we really have a slam dunk on the deletion? --
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