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531:-- There's no obligation to improve; I know that. I probably should have said "without comment". I gave my logic for deletion. I would like to hear why the dePRODder believes a ten year old bit of original research should stay in the encyclopedia, that's all. 556:, this is a component of space hardware that is conceptually shared across multiple vehicles, with a separate design history for each nation, generation and vehicle. There is plenty of scope for an overview and comparison, there is no shortage of sourcing. 229:
If the topic is notable but we only have articles on specific instances, surely a general article is warranted? The list of service modules alone is enough reason to keep the article, the rest of the text can be improved. For example, Section 2.4.2 of
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because the point of the article is to describe the general concept, and the Apollo SM is just one example. Balon Greyjoy's claim that "much of the listed examples are either fictitious or cancelled programs" is highly misleading. There are some
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Usage as a primary topic must be "much more likely than any other topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined." I don't see how that can be said about
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discusses the general concept over several pages in relation to satellites, and our article could be expanded to include this. --
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This article is original research from 2004. The topic is notable but duplicates quality articles including
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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it does seem to me that navigation is improved a little by an article/list like this and/or
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than the Apollo one, and Zvezda is...Zvezda, not "Zvezda service module". -
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per Pontificalibus and Shelbystripes. Doesn't make sense to redirect to
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refer to Apollo. Orion's SM isn't nearly as widely known, just because
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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examples listed at the end; I'm not aware of any examples being
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Useage of "Service module" in sources for space topics will
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