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318:) sources to help support the text. While these sources seem to support some of the text, I'm not sure that many/all support notability (most news sources are passing mentions, where the subject and the subject's work are mentioned in a discussion about a broader/other primary topic). I'll try and take another look later. But I've not yet come down on one "side" (keep/delete) as yet. (That the article seems to have been created/expanded largely by SPA and likely COI editors doesn't, however, "help".) 533:
artist listed the award in a CV or resume. I am on a phone with very little time or ability to do this research and my internet connection is sporadic and iffy at best. This artist’s web site indicates significance and so notability but again these are not references nor is this Knowledge compliant as applies to other topics. I can’t do this research right now, but until we can design Knowledge to deal with artists I urge not to delete.
619:#4, as the biosketch suggests that the subject's work has "been represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums". If that information could be verified in other sources (such as database listings of gallery holdings), then the article should be kept. Of course, absent identifying specific notable galleries and identifying sources to verify inclusion, a keep vote is premature. 668:
images, none of which link back to any kind of RS coverage. The sources in the article are low-quality primary sources, or minor mentions. In short, there is nothing significant available to establish notability, and we must therefore delete. (I was pinged here by 4meter4 to give an assessment, which I have done neutrally.) ---
588:, you can't just point to it, and say we can't used that wee bit and that is ok. It can't be done that. All in the information in the article is dud. None of it can be used in any context. There is no half-way house, where you can pick and choose to use. He wrote it, so it is completly unreliable for out viewing and fails 667:
there is basically nothing out there in RS about this artist. Worse, some claims do not check out. I checked two Irish museum collections that are searchable and claimed to include his work; neither verified the claim. An image search is a good barometer. Péter Fülöp + Ceramic art provides very few
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Yes. I realize that it’s not a ref. I was pointing to a significant list of achievements pertaining to the artist. From there each resume point would have to be verified. Knowledge is poorly designed to judge notability of artists. Often major awards such as a Guggenheim would only be found if the
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who is an expert at navigating museum archives to locate RS to prove this kind of thing through sources independent of the subject. I would suggest the AFD not be closed until Possibly gets back to us.
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That reference is a profile written by Peter Fulop himself. It is not a valid source per well established Knowledge policy? It covered by
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I do think that's a somewhat uncharitable read of Littleoliveoil's comment; I read their point as being that they likely meet
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Anyway. I'm on the fence. And not sure what would trigger me to get off it. I'm not sure this is cut/dried either way....
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if we can verify that his work is indeed part of the collections at these major institutions. I am going to ping
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is notable. Note his work is held in a national gallery; that alone is significant for any artist and notable.
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Do the sources provided provide substantial, intellectually independent, and reliable coverage of the subject?
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Remember to sign your comments with the four tildes, so we know who you are. When some article is a
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Portfolio with his name and address. It is a profile written by him.
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Indications of notability, but I couldn't verify it. Has been in
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Author : Peter Fulop. Another SPS source. Changed from
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