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cultural vocabulary (E). Further, it is not doctrine-defining even in the modern Pentecostal movement - which instead focuses on places like 1 Corinthians 12 and 14. "It means a lot" is not the same thing as encyclopedic notability - that is, "it means a lot" is a subjective value statement. As I noted above, it "means a lot" to me as well. But in neither of the traditions in question is it a doctrine-defining, or church-defining, verse.
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1) I can't believe we'd want to jump on the slippery slope of an article on every single verse of the bible that someone decides is notable. 2) the article is inherently POV simply because it seems based on one (and only one) english-language translation of the verse. 3) Redundancy: the passage is
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Actually, that has nothing to do with it. The use of Scripture in theological development from 33-1517 has nothing to do with whether or not I am Lutheran (A & B above). Since then, it still is not a topic of debate among modern biblical scholars (C above). It is not a part of the broader
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Pastor David, since your a pastor you should know this is one of the most well-quoted verses in the Bible and one of the most well known. event though it doesn't have much information to the article. It still deserves it's own page exactly like
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Unfortunately there is not enough information on this verse yet, if enough can be gathered in the future, this verse is notable enough, in my opinion, to warrant its own article, but, for now, there is not enough content.
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Yeah, I'm a little curious about this also. In my opinion, the article is not a recreation, and in the future, if sources are discovered to justify notability, I do not want its creation precluded. Why salt?
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While I do not care to get into an extensive debate here, let me say that I respectfully disagree. (A) It was not ever a lynch-pin verse in the early theological debates of the church, such as
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The difference between me and you, Pastor David, is that your Luthuren (or however you spell it) and I'm Pentecostal. It mean a whole lot more in my church.--
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there is significant written commentary on every verse of the bible, and perhaps someone will do these articles on some of the key verses properly. .
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per Markeer. Additionally, no reliable sources with significant coverage prove the individual notability of this passage.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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or which are not generally known as independent and reliable are not acceptable verifications of notability.
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its particular "epistle" To clarifiy, I'm not seeing notability for this particular verse on its own.
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Unfortunately, there is not a shred of reliable, independent evidence to suggest that provided.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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IT'S NOTABLE, BECAUSE IT'S ONE OF THE MOST QUOTED VERSES IN THE BIBLE.
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listed on the main Phillipians article as a notable verse already -
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Hornetman - step back and chill out for a moment. Please. -
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What the heck does indepenence have to do with it?--
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03:36, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Philippians 4:13
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Navou
06:02, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
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06:15, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
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06:41, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
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iva1979
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