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746:. However, there is definitely a difference between this article and the one for Hansen-Aarøen. There are numerous articles written specifically about Pipi, in Spanish, Japanese and English, while the coverage for Hansen-Aarøen is relatively small. While I am surprised that the coverage for Hansen-Aarøen hasn't been larger, it just isn't enough to satisfy 812:
article looks very promising in terms of passing GNG, but is subscription locked. However you cannot argue that there are less sources for Pipi or Mejbri, because you are including articles about transfer speculation, the eventual transfer and brief mentions in articles - of which both Pipi and
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in his cohort (according to the Guardian). The heck more do you want. He plays for Real Madrid, one of the top and most famous teams in the world, in a top league, so he meets NFOOTBALL, and he meets the GNG too as there are 11 refs which is enough to support this reasonably-sized article.
886:. Numerous sources, all signifying his notability as future prospects for Real Madrid. The coverage from Guardian also further adds to his notability. His international play for Japan U-15 didn't establish notability, but coupled with others he is surely notable. 470:. I also found several articles in Japanese about the subject but I'm not knowledgeable enough about Japanese media to know which ones are reliable so those do not factor into my opinion. All in all, it is my opinion that the subject comfortably passes 807:
You're the one who brought up Hansen-Aarøen earlier in this AfD, and from that moment it became clear why exactly you have started this. If I'd seen the AfD for Hansen-Aarøen, and seen the sources provided, I probably would've voted keep -
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Mejbri have (minus Pipi from transfer speculation because there have never been any rumours about him leaving Madrid). These kinds of articles are not really enough to suffice for GNG, from what I've gathered in my time on Knowledge.
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are just the examples as there is no logic and consistency in assessment of young footballers' notability. For example, Spanish, Japanese and Malaysian newspapers are good for GNG, but, say, Norway newspapers are not reliable?
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again. Never explains why 'Player A' meets GNG and 'Player B' fails GNG. No explanation, just pure subjective opinion. I think that the lack of consistency and strict criteria about reliable sources is highly damaging.
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I can't comment on the quality of the articles in the case of Isak Hansen-Aarøen as none of them are referenced in his AFD. Substantial articles in those publications would definitely go towards
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Knowledge's policy is that each of these processes is not decided based on a head count, but on the strength of the arguments presented and on the formation of consensus.
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are not? Goal.com and AS.com are good sources? Then in another case the same sources are 'not enough' to keep the article. Such a shame that such bias exists. --
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Not every Real Madrid youngster is notable and not every 'wonderkid' in The Guardian's list of '60 of the best young talents in world football' is notable. --
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and really articles like this should not be nominated for destruction, that's not what AfD is for. For notability, he's one of the top 50 players
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While wunderkids are not always notable, there's clearly enough sourcing here across different languages to support an article. Easily passes
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GNG requires multiple reliable sources so they all contribute to it. There is more substantial coverage found, for instance
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There is surprisingly a lot of coverage for this young player, I feel there is more than enough around to easily pass GNG.
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Maybe that's enough, maybe not, I just don't understand the logic of some posters. For example, in one case
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does not mean the subject is automatically notable. It only means that the subject is likely to have the
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Two Spanish newspapers and Goal.com NXGN Series, is it enough to pass GNG? --
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We discuss Pipi here. If you want to discuss Hansen-Aarøen sources welcome
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is enough for GNG, in the other he states that multiple newspaper mentions
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Japanese article (and many other Japanese articles) are more than enough.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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available that goes into the subject in detail, including from
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Clearly meets GNG with extensive international coverage.
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Remember that while AfD may look like a voting process,
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stop badgering participants / being rude and uncivil.
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