2663:. Professor Pandey is a famous scientist and establishment expert of science institution in India for example, MOG division, SAC/ISRO, NCAOR/MOES, KBCAOS and key role in establishment of CORAL, IIT Kharagpur. He is SSB Prize Holder, NASA Recognization and Cass Award Holder(one of the IEEE's old paper in which his biography is publishes not available on line at present) and many other scientific award. He is Fellow of two best academi which itself made him notable. He is fellow of two main body(society) of Indian Earth Science fied. Apart from these as Indias Atmospheric and Ocean Science is near about 60 year old only, Pandey is the person who started to work on upper atmosphere satellies first time and made polar remote sensing his own field in India first time. This made him founder director of Indias First Polar Science Institution. Seeing his speciallities in so many field with help of microwave field primary research in D.Phil. from Allahabad University, I can say he has done best for human being specially in India. His notable point is that he always encourage the younger scientist to do the effort for best science. India one can not remain to escape with his influence if he belongs with SAC, NCAOR, INCOIS, NIO, and Atmospheric and ocean science centres and Institution. Multi-Institutional work of logistic support for Antarctic expedition of 9 year made his familiar among laarge group of scientific person of India and world. Thanks in advance if wikipedia think him notable.
601:. I have supported the article as any user in wikipedia, I do not remember now. I am very familiar to the Prfessor P C Pandey who is very liberal and generally attended the marraige ceremony of his village people who requested with love. He have no so much poover background of family. He have his wife Savita Pandey and only daughter Nidhi Pandey therefore no reason of any son of his own. Yes he love Dr. Vivek Kumar Pandey, Allahabad University very much, so he attended his marriage which was arranged from his native village Ramapur. In his marriage many friends and Ph.D. batch mate of Dr. Vivek Kumar Pandey from Allahabad University present who were also familiar with well known scientis in India. The Dr. pandey attended the ceremoney so many of then thinks that Dr. Vivek is his father. I have seen all the all Image tagged with his name on wikipedia carefully this was pandey although who added all on the page clear by discussion may be wrong but it should not be base of deletion. I am too worry by this wikipedia decison and hope a genious scientist who work for making a base to atmospheric and oceanic in India will remain a an encyclopedic notable article for wikipedia. Once again I request the wikipedia person to take user help to improve it rather than delete such labourious Indian Scientist who work and work only grow for Indian science.
1635:. This person has founded two important research institutes, quite apart from his other achievements. Were he in the US, that alone would probably have been sufficient for "notability". To my mind, this discussion is suffering from a very Euro-/US-centric perspective, which is also evident from the remarks above. As an example, citation indices are not international, but Englisch language centric and heavily biased towards "western" publications. They are basically an instrument developed within the US academic structure and geared to this, but the sheer might of the US ensures that this bias is "internationalised". If we do go into notability debates, then we should have a level playing field. This person is notable in India, that's a fact. The question is, is that "international" enough? If this be denied, then I submit that a large part of the entries in the Knowledge pertaining to scientists or the like in Europe or North America should be remove based on the same criteria. And in any case, he is certainly more notable than most thirdrate singers, actors or sports persons in the Knowledge, if achievements are a yardstick. But, as an author whose name I unfortunately don't remember, remarked: "The moron who uses the moog synthesiser earns several thousand times more than the person who invented it." This seems,
2010:. Professor Pandey is SSB Prize holder which is highest scientific awards in Indian Science field and he is also Founder Director of a centre whose functioning is only possible by International MoU thus his contribution is itself prestigious in nature. He is a pace-maker to Polar science and Satellite oceanography in India. The CORAL, IIT Kharagpur found an Important height by his direction although he is no head. KBCAOS, Allahabad University generated Atmospheric and ocean science department in Allahabd University because of his founding by NCAOR Project mode starting. He apart from above is Founder Head, Meteorology and Ocean Group divison, Space Application Centre/ISRO and NASA research Associate who got award from NASA for his contribution.Thus I can say strongly that in India he is hero of Atmospheric and Ocean Science. I have seen many article is running on wikiedia page having much less contribution to the Science. Thus his this article page is certainy benifite to the common people as well as scientific people. I say and request to wikipedia cmmunity to make it notable forever with no future dispute or discussion.
2610:: I think it is not helpful to be quoting again and again a Web of Science h-score of 3 when this has been calculated - as so often in these debates - erroneously. It has been done excluding Institutions=SPACE APPLICAT CTR OR CALTECH NATL CTR ANTARCTIC & OCEAN RES JET PROP LAB , NATL INST OCEANOG, ANTARCT STUDY CTR OR INDIA SPACE RES ORG ) etc etc inclusion of these would I think substantially increase the WoS h-index (but it is still low - my guess would be around 7 (but it is a bit tricky to calculate)). The aggression seems to me to be coming more from those wishing to delete (I think those wishing to delete articles need to be aware or sensitive to the authors and the subjects of biographies - to be arguing someone is not notable and to do so politely is difficult ). And the attacks on Indian National Science bodies and their awards also seems a little awkward and impolite. (
2423:âââNotable articleâââ. Dear Hoary sources are from Indian and International Atmospheric and Ocean Scientist especially in Polar Science. Are you really interested in discussion? if yes, then a scientist and academician who is SSB Prize holder, fellow of two National Science academy, fellow of IMS, Fellow of Society of Earth Science India , Editorial Board of national and international Journals. Founder HOD of MOG, SAC/ISRO, Founder of NCAOR, Founder of KBCAOS,IIDS, UoA and play key role in establishment of CORAL, IIT Kharagpur also then how he is not notable?. You are blindly opposing the article in this stage and want to delete it. Are you want to seek secret of his personal life? Perhaps you are biased person by nature, if you not accepting it as notable article. I do not say more than this and will never take part in discussion.
1959:. He is a famous worldwide noble researcher/scientist/ emritus professour at india's prestigious IIT. His contribution in the field of satellite oceanography, polar science and current burning issue of climate change. He has promoted several young scientist in the field of satellite oceanography, polar science and climate change. He is a pillar of atmopsheric and ocean science in India. Indian Government awared him the most valuable prize in the field of science " Shanti Swaroop Bhatnagar Award" and Uttar Pradesh Government " Vigyan Ratan". He is honoured as a " Proud Past Alumini" by the Allahabad University Alumini Association registered under scociety act 1860 registration number (407/2000).
527:. This is a highly technical and very detailed resume of an individual's educational and professional background within the various fields in which the subject has worked. It is difficult to determine the notability of the individual within the scientific community, based on the content provided. A copy edit is implausible and the content is wholly unsuitable for an encyclopedia. The subject of the article may indeed be a very kind and gentle man with a beautiful family presented in wonderful photos. However, this does not establish notability appropriate for inclusion on Knowledge.
1253:. Dear Sodabottle and Hoary sir kindly improve the article for making it as notable. The person is back-bone of Indian Atmospheric and Ocean Science. I have taken n of the copy of Indian Meteorologist: Prem Chand Pandey from INFIBEAM's web page its very interesting to know him. He has done a lot for Indian Science and education. Much about him is he is founder director of any centre working on international level i.e. NCAOR. I request to Hoary sir to be humble and cool to stay the article on wikipedia, certainly it will rich encyclopedia.
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2159:âââ Now Article is Perfect Notableâââ. The article is present form can say as most notable for wikipedia. Dear Hoary, why the article is not suitable if your comment of fellow reference have now answered by Roseling. If this article is not notable and entry is so hard then many running article is also not worthy to get entry in the wikipedia which have got entry already. I want to say that the discussion should close and matter resolve by âkeeping the Article on wikipedia page for everâ.
936:) armies of en-0.5 WP newbies choosing quantity over quality, both in prose and in references. To me, the notability of the subject is beyond doubt. What this article needs is a lift over a certain threshold (say, C-class) from where one could make reverts with a summary like "no improvement of the article", combined with a handful of experienced editors placing it on their watchlists. Should the article survive, I would volunteer to clean it up. --
987:âIndian Academics: Amartya Sen, Prem Chand Pandey, H. S. S. Lawrence, Suchitra Mitra, Jagadguru Rmabhadrcrya, Ramdhari Singh 'Dinkar'â, Llc Books. Books LLC âIndian Science Writers: Prem Chand Pandeyâ, Llc Books. Books LLC âIndian Institute of Technology Kharagpur Faculty: Prem Chand Pandeyâ, Llc Books. Books LLC âIndian Antarctic Program: Prem Chand Pandeyâ, Llc Books. Books LLC âIndian Meteorologists: Prem Chand Pandeyâ, Llc Books. Books LLC,
1317:. I feel that louis gp's statement is correct and article is being improved by some one which is justice for this article. Thus I also thanks Sodabottle and Hoary for creative work. The India's great atmospheric scientist's article deletion is not good on the occasion of Indian Indepence day. Pandey is great scientist who directly and indirectly influences the world large scientific group. Let it be notable article on wikipedia.
544:. "vppram" has contributed many Image related with Professor Prem Chand Pandey, which was submitted by some one to the article within few days. It is not base of deletion of such notable scientist now. Let the wikipedia admin should make it as notable article. Family of P C Pandey is very great and historical but the person in whose marrige he was is his nephew in village relation. Being a villager is not any bad.
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1708:. He is not only SSB Prize holder and Founder Director but given base to Polar science and Satellite oceanography in India. He played key role in CORAL, IIT Kharagpur and KBCAOS, Allahabad Universty. Seeing his contribution from Founder Head, Meteorology and Ocean Group divison, Space Application Centre/ISRO to Emeritus professor one can say that his this article page is deserved at notable one.
2344:âââObvious keep it Notable without any further discussionâââ. No, Hoary my independent thought on article by comparing with number of other article on wikipedia is that the âdeletion is a partiality with the articleâ and you only is behind the deletion, and also stretching more and more. The more unnecessary discussion on the article having present form is not praise worthy any way.
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2037:, and P N Vinayachandran are notable article for wikipedia then why Professor Prem Chand Pandey not? This suitable article will enrich the atmospheric science. The every words written at the Indian Time 10.51 AM, 18-08-2010 in the article is correct,valid and essential for emphasis his work in the field. I strongly recommend the article for wikipedia.
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2033:âââ Strongly valid article for wikipediaâââ. It is hidden matter that Professor Pandey is in Shanti swarup Bhatnagar Award committee of Shanti Swarup Bhatnagar Prize for Science and Technology in Earth, Atmosphere, Ocean & Planetary Sciences since long time not only Bhatnagar Awardee in the field. If these,
718:. I hope wikipedia will work on these LLC book publishers matter who have even not consulted with Professor Pandey. I want this clearify that Dr. Vivek Kumar Pandey is his beloved nephew of his village by remote relation but not a son. The below books are depends on wiki article please look on the matter.
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by the prime minister of India. As with other awards with state patronage, whether the winners are selected because they are actually good at what they do becomes a side issue in this award - persons with political clout, persons who are actually administrators rather than researchers end up getting
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English prose EXPLAINING the man's importance rather than using some sort of terse, Who's Who In India dictionaryese. That said, there is clearly sufficient career achievement to merit inclusion plus a significant academic award showing, which should be enough to
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Bhatnagar award is awarded by the Indian Prime Minister, so that anyone who obtains it is obviously considered very notable. That alone should be enough to
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Sciences but also in Engineering Science, Mathematical Science, Physical Science|, biological Science, Chemical Science, Medical Science there are many scientific Indian personâs article running strongly based on SSB award. Dear Hoary and wikipedia
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Founding Director Pandey is best reviewer of the International journals and academician of Atmospheric and Ocean Scince specially polar science". Asked to specify the sources, you fail to do so. I am not interested in Pandy's personal life. I'm not even keen to have the article deleted. (I
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is notable and P C Pandey is not notable. I am providing you the few source who know well about Pandeyâs work, these are: T.N. Krishnamurti, FSU , Jagadish Shukla , Shailesh Naik , Prof. B.N. Goswami, Prof. J. Srinivasan, Prof. Roddam
Narasimha,FRS, Surendra N Tewari, Avijit Gangopadhyay, All
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1575:. It is not sufficient for a researcher to publish work to obtain notability to Knowledge's standards. To be notable one must have been extensively noted by peers. In the case of scientists it is particularly easy to assess this through the various databases of scholarly citations like
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1882:! Scopus too fails to separate the Earth Science Pandey from others (furthermore its h-index is based only on post 1995 publications, and miss a substantial bulk of the subject's publications). FWIW, the best way I have found to roughly isolate the subject from others' is through
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Professor Pandey not if he also Bhatnagar Awardee and a founding Director. I am seeing in the discussion of this page that a mass entry is along with the article and against the deletion therefore conclusion i.e. keep article as notable needed
2132:. Dear Hoary, I have added the Fellow official reference of both Academy in the Article and you can also see here:. I hope such person who is fellow of both academy and IMS, Bhatnagar Awardee and Founder Director of a world known Instite is notable in every way.
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searches for Indian scientists such as "S K Malik" or "E S R Gopal" (chosen from among those who have not received the prize) produce hundreds of citations. I add again that I am willing to reconsider my vote upon the presentation of sufficient evidence.
2213:. Its looks that wikipedia's policy is to cleanup a article by nomination for deletion. Now article has been cleanuped therefore stop the discusion on deletion and keep the artcle. I hope the wikipedia administration is also agree on the matter.
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2368:: Notability have no questtion.Sources say that Founding Director Pandey is famous scientist all over India and he is best reviewer of the International journals and academician of Atmospheric and Ocean Scince specially polar science.
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2693:. Article makes no claim of anything this person has discovered or how this person has advanced science. As such, his ability to advance within academia is his country is of no encyclopedic value. All the awards are in-house; the
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that Founding Director Pandey is famous scientist all over India and he is best reviewer of the International journals and academician of Atmospheric and Ocean Scince specially polar science" (my emphasis). This is splendid news.
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English: how an Indian name is anglicised may vary, even in official documents. Variants like "Pandey"/"Pande" (or even "Panday") are common, so that's no argument. And yes, "Pandey" is a common surname. What does that show?
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807:âAtmospheric Scientists: Prem Chand Pandey, Andrew Crosse, Ken Caldeira, Robert Angus Smith, David Lary, Dennis Tirpak, James Russell IIIâ, Llc Books. Books LLC, 2010.
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779:âIndian Academics: Amartya Sen, Prem Chand Pandey, H. S. S. Lawrence, Suchitra Mitra, Jagadguru Rmabhadrcrya, Ramdhari Singh 'Dinkar'â, Llc Books. Books LLC, 2010.
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982:. Pandey is the best atmospheric scientist and his this article will make the wikipedia rich in atmospheric articles. Please read these link and books:
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work on the matter on books having ISBN number based on wikipedia article The below books are depends on wiki article please look on the matter.
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