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369:"When describing the current software used for jailbreaking, Apple makes it clear that the modified firmware is not being sold commercially. Apple notes that a program called “PwnageTool,” which uses unauthorized modifications to the iPhone’s firmware, is being freely distributed on the web to perform the jailbreaking function." 434:
Most of these references are short articles written because of PwnageTool and discussing several details of it. We could use them to write a decent article without reaching for original research or primary sources. They aren't just mentioning PwnageTool among lists of jailbreaking tools, for example.
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Just to comment. I was reading through another one of their programs, redsn0w or something and it mentions, there's an option to install something called Cydia, and your user page says you work for Cydia. Is the non-inclusion of PwnageTool something of conflicting interest with Cydia?
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I believe that PwnageTool is notable enough for its own independent article, with these references showing that a lot can be written about it. This article could be improved to reasonable status by adding context and condensing the lists into cited prose.
359:"For example, the most popular iPhone jailbreaking software, PwnageTool, decrypts and creates a modified version of the iPhone firmware so as to neutralize the authentication checks that prevent applications not signed by Apple from running." 489:, it's only visited 80-100 times a day, which would make advocating for it a poor use of time for somebody trying to promote Cydia (which has millions of users). It's good to discuss COI though; I take it seriously too. 348: 345: 480:
PwnageTool does have an option to install Cydia on the iOS versions it supports, but I believe I don't have a significant conflict of interest here partly because it's an outdated tool no longer used by many people
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This article needs a lot of work, but it's a notable subject. PwnageTool is an important jailbreaking tool covered by many news articles over the years - with a quick search, here are some:
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It is just one of the many softwares meant to alter the iPhone software and the entire page is dedicated to look like a release note for software. It's not worthy of stand alone page.
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It may be even more interesting that PwnageTool was discussed as an example jailbreaking tool by both Apple and the EFF in the 2009 DMCA exemption hearings.
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is now the primary tool; it supports many more iOS versions and has many more features) - this article is just of historical interest. Also, according to
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These are fairly trivial coverage. I'm not seeing enough notability to warrant a stand alone article in addition to the
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has posted numerous sources above, at least a few of which extend beyond trivial coverage. As per
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Can you elaborate? Knowledge doesn't allow any software to get added if they're not noteworthy.
354: 420:, although not in great depth. The page as it stands is a release note page for the software. 402: 255: 29:
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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For more coverage showing that popular tech blogs have considered it important, see
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its developer have. This entire article is used as a release note depository.
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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This transcript of the hearings includes a lot of discussion of PwnageTool.
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This book calls PwnageTool the most popular jailbreaking tool at that time.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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This is notable just like any other software on wikipedia. --
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This book also explains how to jailbreak with PwnageTool.
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —
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Several notable sites have discussed the product. --
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