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Notability guidance also talks about a subject having "attracted attention." I suppose it could be argued that the company has attracted the attention of these promotional media outlets by virtue of its presence in the business world and in its particular niche. The clear promotional intent of these
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Revation Systems article is tiny--what Knowledge calls a "stub," as seen in the label at the bottom of the page. Perhaps it could be further argued that the article is so small that no harm is done. Every "stub" label, however, encourages editors to expand such articles. In the case
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Contining the discussion, I appreciate all of the feedback from everyone on this page. In response to your feedback and clarification I have found some more "notable" articles that talk about
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per nom. I was planning on sending all three of these articles to AfD on
Wednesday or Thursday at the latest barring a level of improvement that I think very unlikely. There are a lot of things you can fix, but notability is not one of them. It's either there or it's not.
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Below are my assessments of the media articles listed above. In my opinion, only one (www.rcrwireless.com/20161122) might support "notability." The others could be used to support "content" in a
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Every business has its ups and downs, its failures and successes. The uniformly boosterish, cheerleading coverage in the cited articles demonstrates the reality that these outlets are nothing more than vehicles to help their subjects drum up business.
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which CEO Perry Price talks about
Revation Systems in depth in the beginning of the interview. I hope these are more of what you are looking for and these can be used. If notability is achieved, please advise me on where to go from there. Thank you.
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explicitly mentions "press releases" as sources that fail to meet requirements. The outlets listed cannot be considered "independent of the subject" in the sense intended by
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6. EWorld Wire: April 7, 2008: Revation
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Knowledge Base product and its impact on both payers and providers alike within the healthcare industry." -- Businesswire.com
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