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529:- Generally, we do not have articles about people that are only notable due to their murder/death. The murders themselves seem notable though, but the sources leave much to be desired. These murders seem to be significant because they targeted three African-Canadian men in two years on Salt-Spring Island. There also seems to have been 602:
The website clearly is a reliable source covering the murder, but all the other sources are just reviews of the website that restate information about the murder from it. Is anyone able to find articles about the actual murder and murder victim that isn't just rehashed material from the website?
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The article doesn't have a single citation for any of the facts presented, and my initial instinct was to delete it because many people get murdered.... and getting killed/murdered doesn't make one particularly notable as that is easily a black-swan event; a one-second google search brings up
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Darryl Kerrigan's link to "a book" is actually just another link to the website. Ironically, currently the website seem to have more notability than William Robinson himself.
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plenty of articles from what (at quick glance) appear to be notable. Give it a little time to be improved...
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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that the sources, when searching, do indeed seem to prove the subject passes
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Unsourced since April 2019, only external link seemingly unsourced; fails
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is met. The article will be renamed as he is only notable for his murder.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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