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This is an MMORPG!! This article is not about a random website or aything. This is a game. We, The
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Thank you for the help, copliments and advice. We will add whatever needs to be needed. There is one sentence that needs to be cited correctly, and we will make sure about the images. The article may never be perfect but we will do our best to get it close.
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