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Oh my bad, Johnbod, I didn't realize we had a shoe shop, but not a shoe store, article. But, again, my other point remains: how many shoe stores do we have versus vape stores? Thousands and thousands of shoe stores versus a relative handful of vape shops. It's also not specific enough. I wouldn't
571:- I also think the article is overlinked with references, many of which are prima facie self-evident. I assume this was in response to a deletion nom, but when and if the article passes they could be trimmed down. Something like this does not need a litany of news articles to prove it is real.
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553:- definitely passes muster as a genre of store. Knowledge has a long tradition of filling out complete catalogs of things like "furniture", "meals", and "clothing". I see no reason why a valid and obviously true and non-spam non-COI type of retail establishment should be excluded.
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