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345:.) The state of the current article is no reason to delete, and surely Homunculus will be able to do the work eventually and deserve our thanks. Not a good idea to merge with the real person's article. We (properly) have (separate) articles on Macbeth the real person, Macbeth the character, Macbeth the play, Lady Macbeth, even lesser characters like 454:
further elaborates on this and establishes that if no reliable sources allows to "discuss the reception and significance of notable works", then the article doesn't deserve a stand-alone article. Simply saying "add sources" is not a valid reason to keep the article. You have to prove that sources
235:— subject is certainly notable, though it is admittedly odd that the page is unreferenced. I could make a point of adding reliable source references (though it may need to wait a week or two). Alternately, we might consider merging this content with the main article on 427:
makes it quite clear that referencing is entirely optional, being only required for quotations or controversial points. If such references are required, the remedy is to add them, not to delete the entire article. AFD is not cleanup.
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The only way to fix it is to find sources that discuss the reception and significance of the character. You should first look for sources before recommending conservation, maybe these sources don't exist.
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of the most populous nation on earth, the one whose "journey to the West" is the basic storyline frame; a story with countless spinoffs & adaptations and influences on Chinese popular culture. (See
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Per WP:GNG. Article does not have independent reliable third party sources, as set out in notability guidelines. Referencing is not optional so without sources I propose that this page be not kept
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is not. Given the age of the reference, I'm suspicious that the latter is true, and cannot support merging (deletion is not a viable outcome, per
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does actually require "discussing the reception and significance of notable works in addition to a concise summary" in articles about fiction.
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Very notable. Surely there's a great number of references particularly applicable to a central character of one of the
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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There is nothing proving the existence of references without a doubt in your comment, and as
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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discussing the reception and significance" do exist, and you failed to do that, Warden.
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your recommendation to keep is thus premature until sources are actually found.
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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as a section discussing adaptations of his story in literature and art.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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etc. This & the other main characters are quite comparable.
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