358:- Zimmer has a contract to build a nuclear bomb factory. It's not in passing. Zimmer has the contract. Most people would think that is notable. My incentive to create the article was to show that the Zimmer has already developed several high profile projects in Kansas City including the billion dollar campus of Sprint-Nextel, the new Federal Reserve headquarters and a basketball museum by the Sprint Center, and the complex around the Kansas Speedway. Zimmer will hire the architects, the actual builders, etc. But Zimmer has the contract!!!! On its face when a company develops billion dollar projects, it's notable.
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461:- Among the three articles you lightly dismissed is one about it developing a $ 673 million project, pay $ 5.2 million a year in taxes and save 2,500 jobs -- all in the service of building nuclear bomb components. The Kansas City Plant is getting much publicity.
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