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does not emit or cause to be emitted a link in the text which it contains; the issue appears to be the emitted category. The solution would therefore seem to be one of: ask for that template to not emit a category when used in a reference; change the way in which it emits a category;have a sister
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should strip the leading "0" if available. Also, as for the pipe issue, there might be (hopefully) few of such cases, and though I'm not sure if all such mistakes would all be in the same format, but if it's a frequent issue I could get a pattern to attempt it (running from false positives here).
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This task focuses on errors related to citation templates, which include the archive links. As for the templates, it's better to have that part more specific (hard-code for certain templates only, because, as seen from the above, can cause many problems). IIRC, there isn't a problem with links.
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However, thanks for the mention, it caused me to look back at the code and notice that I disabled the entire link/template section rather than just that part that isn't specific as it pertains to templates (which, as I said, can be very troublesome).
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How else do you suggest that we mark up the titles of non-English works, such that the emitted HTML complies with HTML and WCAG standards? (And where would be a better place to discuss this issue; which is probably drifting from relevance here?)
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Well, with what is in mind from the last trial, with the fixes I said, that's basically it. There are probably one or two cases of the wikilink removal instances above I could hard-code as well, but, again, as far as I'm aware, that's about it.
974:. We generally treat all bots as article-only, unless otherwise stated. In this case, it is not uncommon to have wrong citation style as examples or problem tests, and the bot should not assume other namespaces require automatic correction. —
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template for use in references, which dos not emit a category; or have the functionality embedded in the citation template core itself. the later is probably the most elegant solution. As I said above,
2392:- You've done great work cleaning up this category! I hope the bot could fix the most common cases, but we'll still need passionate editors such as yourself to manually fix the edge cases. Thanks!
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Operator has edited on four days in the last two months and has become unresponsive. I'm expiring this without prejudice; the operator is welcome to re-open.
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and {{lang-xx}} style templates, as should be seen from the trials. In that case, if there's anything I missed, please let me know.
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this page is difficult to read because of your garish sig. Please tone it down.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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234:Links to relevant discussions (where appropriate):
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