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582: 385:. This would be more targeted toward solely new uploads rather than everything, if I'm reading the new discussion correctly? It might also be an idea to go with a higher, clear-and-obvious/ likely-no-errors threshold for the pixel area / sizes for one form of tagging (i.e., the one that prompts bot followup) and tag with something less intrusive for only-suspect ones (since there was some disagreement on what that threshold should be). 639: 563: 48: 428:), otherwise there will be users who will pitch their image just under the new bar - I've seen this with the current system, where there have been a disproportionate amount of new uploads in the 100,000 to 100,500 range - obviously knowing the bot won't reduce them (about 60,000 images in this range - 10% of the whole non-free category). 452:
Do we think this can go anywhere? Just for info, in the last 2 months I have had to manually tag 4105 oversized non-free images - an average of 70 files a day (at least I don't have to tell the uploader, so my simple javascript to add the template by clicking an extra tab is very useful). Checking my
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If the reduction was not reversible, I would agree with the "Bot to Bot" scenario, however do we allow a full 7 days for a simple revert, which the uploader (having been notified) can easily do if necessary. Also quite often it's not really possible to evaluate the reduction until it's actually done.
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Any chance of moving forward with a trial on this one. Still manually tagging 70 odd images a day - as an aside, it's possible the use of this bot with its user notices "might" persuade editors to consider the size of the image before they upload it (probably a bit of a long shot...).
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325 (105625 pixels). It will check the last upload is the big image (wiki search shows the biggest visual image on the page, not necessarily the last image), and after checking to make sure it's suitable and not tagged already for reduction or for no reduction will add the
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If the idea is to alert the user, have the bot post a message on their talk page. {{non-free reduce}} goes far beyond just alerting the user, since it will also alert a bot to automatically resize the image within 24 hours. --Ahecht (TALK PAGE) 16:43, 7 February 2018
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already (921 files at present = just 0.15% of all non-free images). I think we must be careful not to set a different "bar" - if we tag all files over X pixels, then we need something else done for the range 105,000 to X pixels (maybe use a modified
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You will need to build out the user messaging before this can be trialed. If you need assistance with the wording, check in the areas that normally deal with this subject. —
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added to their talk page to explain that the image has been tagged and what options are available. NB: That template does not yet exist - some text ideas are at
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this initiative. Ronhjones has already done 4000+ of these manually without issue; should be safe to move forward with a trial. -
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Approved for trial (50 edits). Please provide a link to the relevant contributions and/or diffs when the trial is complete.
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Fall out from the trial was zero. I did have one editor just asking how to calculate the new size, referred him to
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I was initially thinking of more than one, but in the end I went for a simple system -
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talk page, I have only had 4 queries about file reductions, within that 4105 file lot.
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NB: This bot will only affect new uploads. I've done all the old files manually.
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files in excess of 105,000 pixels that are not up for reduction are tagged with
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From general bot standpoint, I agree with the spirit of a concern raised
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Run as trials of 1, 1, 5, 13, and 30 files. List of edited pages at
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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To request review of this BRFA, please start a new section at
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To request review of this BRFA, please start a new section at
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Also the uploader will get the 204:Automatic, Supervised, or Manual: 45:The result of the discussion was 637: 580: 561: 46: 1: 439:19:02, 22 February 2018 (UTC) 397:01:15, 22 February 2018 (UTC) 354:19:32, 19 February 2018 (UTC) 515:Non free image to be reduced 403:New uploads only, currently 325:Non free image to be reduced 247:Non free image to be reduced 306:Category:All non-free media 701: 631:23:30, 30 April 2018 (UTC) 620:, so can we move forward? 603:18:42, 23 April 2018 (UTC) 576:20:08, 22 April 2018 (UTC) 557:15:40, 22 April 2018 (UTC) 530:21:18, 13 April 2018 (UTC) 499:22:39, 12 April 2018 (UTC) 486:04:40, 12 April 2018 (UTC) 464:01:28, 12 April 2018 (UTC) 383:spurred some disagreement 662:Please do not modify it. 652:13:44, 21 May 2018 (UTC) 362:in the linked discussion 304:Bot will do a search on 272:around 70 pages per day 36:Please do not modify it. 332:User:Ronhjones/Sandbox4 423:non-free manual reduce 371: 290:Already has a bot flag 225:User:RonBot/3/Source1 22:Requests for approval 211:Programming language 18:Knowledge (XXG):Bots 618:WP:Image resolution 611:BAGAssistanceNeeded 590:User:RonBot/3/Trial 540:BAGAssistanceNeeded 447:BAGAssistanceNeeded 277:Exclusion compliant 412:non-free no reduce 230:Function overview: 645:task approved. — 395: 302:Function details: 692: 664: 649: 641: 640: 626: 615: 609: 598: 584: 583: 573: 565: 564: 552: 544: 538: 525: 519: 513: 509: 496: 483: 482: 479: 459: 451: 445: 434: 427: 421: 416: 410: 394: 392: 349: 329: 323: 319: 313: 251: 245: 241: 235: 190: 189: 50: 49: 38: 700: 699: 695: 694: 693: 691: 690: 689: 675: 674: 673: 660: 647: 638: 624: 613: 607: 596: 586:Trial complete. 581: 571: 562: 550: 542: 536: 523: 517: 511: 503: 494: 480: 477: 457: 449: 443: 432: 425: 419: 414: 408: 390: 347: 340: 327: 321: 317: 315:non-free reduce 311: 264:Edit period(s): 249: 243: 239: 237:non-free reduce 233: 135: 131: 126: 65: 47: 34: 26: 25: 24: 12: 11: 5: 698: 696: 688: 687: 677: 676: 672: 671: 655: 654: 634: 633: 605: 578: 559: 534: 533: 532: 489: 488: 467: 466: 441: 359: 357: 356: 339: 336: 125: 124: 118: 113: 108: 103: 98: 93: 88: 83: 78: 76:Approved BRFAs 73: 66: 64: 59: 57: 55: 54: 29: 27: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 697: 686: 683: 682: 680: 670: 668: 663: 657: 656: 653: 650: 644: 636: 635: 632: 629: 628: 619: 612: 606: 604: 601: 600: 591: 587: 579: 577: 574: 568: 560: 558: 555: 554: 541: 535: 531: 528: 527: 516: 507: 502: 501: 500: 497: 491: 490: 487: 484: 473: 469: 468: 465: 462: 461: 448: 442: 440: 437: 436: 424: 413: 406: 401: 400: 399: 398: 393: 386: 384: 380: 376: 370: 365: 363: 355: 352: 351: 342: 341: 337: 335: 333: 326: 316: 307: 303: 299: 297: 294: 291: 287: 285: 282: 279: 278: 273: 271: 267: 265: 261: 260: 257: 253: 248: 238: 231: 227: 226: 223: 221: 216: 214: 212: 207: 205: 201: 199: 195: 191: 187: 184: 181: 178: 175: 172: 169: 166: 163: 160: 157: 154: 151: 148: 145: 142: 139: 134: 130: 122: 119: 117: 114: 112: 109: 107: 104: 102: 99: 97: 94: 92: 89: 87: 84: 82: 79: 77: 74: 72: 68: 67: 63: 60: 58: 53: 44: 42: 37: 31: 30: 23: 19: 661: 658: 642: 622: 594: 585: 566: 548: 521: 471: 455: 430: 404: 387: 379:now inactive 372: 367: 358: 345: 301: 300: 295: 292: 289: 288: 283: 280: 275: 274: 269: 268: 263: 262: 255: 254: 229: 228: 218: 217: 209: 208: 203: 202: 193: 192: 182: 176: 170: 164: 158: 152: 146: 140: 128: 127: 70: 56: 51: 35: 32: 220:Source code 194:Time filed: 338:Discussion 222:available: 206:automatic 186:ANI search 180:rights log 168:page moves 156:edit count 116:rights log 106:page moves 643:Approved. 174:block log 133:Ronhjones 129:Operator: 111:block log 52:Approved. 679:Category 648:xaosflux 572:xaosflux 506:Xaosflux 495:xaosflux 293:(Yes/No) 281:(Yes/No) 144:contribs 86:contribs 62:RonBot 3 20:‎ | 667:WT:BRFA 472:support 381:), and 232:1. 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Knowledge (XXG):Bots
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RonBot 3
BRFA
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talk
contribs
count
SUL
logs
page moves
block log
rights log
flag
Ronhjones
talk
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block log
rights log
ANI search
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