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Past experience has shown that bureaucrat discussions usually work best when they operate over a short time frame. Once several bureaucrats have participated, if agreement arises, the RFA or RFB is closed as usual. If no agreement among the bureaucrats emerges after one to two days, a common proposal
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To keep the discussion focused, it is open only to bureaucrats (other editors may comment on the associated talk page). Bureaucrats who have taken a position on the RFA or RFB itself are expected to state this and recuse themselves from the discussion. The talk page of the bureaucrat discussion is
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Holding a bureaucrat discussion ensures that the decision making process in such cases is transparent. However, as bureaucrat discussions delay a decision and can take considerable time on the part of bureaucrats, they are used only as a last resort, after measures such as extending the RFA or RFB
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of the RFA or RFB's page, on which to hold the bureaucrat discussion. They start a discussion by giving an explanation of why they feel unable to determine consensus, and highlight some areas which the discussion may need to address. The discussion is linked from the RFA or RFB. Finally, the
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Bureaucrat discussions are only held when a bureaucrat is unsure whether consensus has been reached in an RFA or RFB. Typically, these are borderline cases, or ones in which unusual circumstances apply.
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A bureaucrat discussion is started by one bureaucrat placing an RFA or RFB on hold. This ends the discussion on the RFA or RFB and prevents any more comments in support or opposition being added.
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Eleven administrators and one bureaucrat have been promoted as the result of a bureaucrat discussion. The bureaucrat is no longer a bureaucrat. Of the admins:
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1089:Last updated 20 May, 2024
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101:This page in a nutshell:
16:Not to be confused with
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932:Money emoji
920:Successful
892:Successful
836:Successful
752:Successful
584:Successful
556:Successful
500:Successful
484:Lear's Fool
444:Successful
391:Kingturtle
248:Successful
205:Discussion
128:bureaucrats
104:Bureaucrats
78:WP:CRATCHAT
38:This is an
1383:Categories
1372:Salvidrim!
1306:Nihonjoe 4
1279:Gracenotes
1007:Acalamari
839:WJBscribe
820:GoldenRing
811:WJBscribe
764:Hawkeye7 2
755:WJBscribe
730:WJBscribe
727:WJBscribe
702:WJBscribe
615:Wizardman
596:Lugia2453
590:WJBscribe
587:WJBscribe
428:Nihonjoe 4
419:WJBscribe
366:WJBscribe
363:WJBscribe
260:Gracenotes
226:Closed by
184:talk pages
123:'crat chat
1066:Primefac
1038:Primefac
1035:Primefac
1010:Xaosflux
954:Primefac
951:Primefac
926:Primefac
923:Primefac
867:Xaosflux
786:Nihonjoe
540:Salvidrim
478:Nihonjoe
475:Nihonjoe
422:Andrevan
372:Avraham 2
310:Cecropia
282:Cecropia
279:Cecropia
254:Rdsmith4
138:(RfA) or
132:consensus
108:consensus
56:consensus
1336:Nihonjoe
1094:de facto
1085:Analysis
982:Useight
898:Dweller
848:Jbhunley
783:Avraham
562:Avraham
559:Avraham
534:Pakaran
531:Pakaran
447:Avraham
338:Deskana
335:Deskana
307:Deskana
220:Outcome
70:Shortcut
512:Mlpearc
394:Taxman
251:Taxman
179:subpage
170:Process
153:Purpose
60:vetting
1063:Maxim
1057:73.3%
1044:Pppery
1029:68.4%
1001:71.8%
979:Maxim
973:75.3%
960:Tamzin
945:69.9%
917:73.7%
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889:64.1%
861:69.5%
842:Maxim
833:66.9%
805:68.0%
777:66.8%
758:Maxim
749:73.5%
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699:Maxim
693:66.0%
665:69.6%
643:Maxim
637:66.1%
609:69.3%
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553:76.4%
525:73.2%
506:EVula
497:75.4%
469:82.0%
450:EVula
441:82.7%
413:68.7%
385:82.3%
357:85.9%
329:73.8%
301:69.7%
273:73.9%
245:68.4%
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1270:Danny
1261:RexxS
876:RexxS
870:Xeno
814:Xeno
792:Godsy
674:Xeno
646:Xeno
618:Xeno
400:Kww 3
344:Riana
232:Danny
211:Date
208:Type
1188:See
1048:RfA
1020:RfA
992:RfA
964:RfA
942:107
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908:RfA
880:RfA
852:RfA
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796:RfA
768:RfA
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628:RfA
600:RfA
572:RfA
544:RfA
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488:RfA
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404:RfA
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288:Cobi
270:134
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236:RfA
58:and
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