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called "The Homer-Stamford Motorway". This last piece of information was actually obtained from a personal one-on-one interview that I had with a former Department of Highways employee several years ago. So, I challenge the person who originally wrote the QEW page to give me a list of their sources. Did (s)he just happen to interview the same Department of Highways employee that I did, or was the information merely copied from my website as I suspect? These are just two specific examples of pieces of information that I have very good reason to believe were just copied from my website. However, you can all be assured that I will not delete (or even question the source) of any information that is clearly "common knowledge". If you are going to obtain information from my website that is not "common knowledge", I ask that you properly credit my website as the source.
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acknowledgement. When I began "editing" these highway pages on Sunday, I was very careful to only delete information that was clearly obtained from my website. Anything that constituted "common knowledge" was deliberately left intact. Anyone with an odometer can measure how long the 401 is, so the length of that highway clearly constitutes "common knowledge". Anyone who has any background in the recent upheaval in Ontario's Highway system knows all to well about the mass downloading that took place in 1997 and 1998. It would therefore not be appropriate for me to delete a reference to the loss of portions of, say, Hwy 7 in 1997-1998. This information has been well documented in several different sources/publications, so the fact that my website also states this information does not give me any rightful ownership claims to these "facts".
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scandal" would be just fine; the title should be whatever the thing the article is about is most commonly called, and as a Canadian who's exposed to lots of Canadian news that's all I ever hear it being referred to as. The involvement of the Liberals and the mention that this scandal is set in Canada should be left up to the article text itself, IMO; there's no need to cram all that information into the title. Especially since as far as I'm aware there's nothing else that's called "the sponsorship scandal".
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citing that type of reference would be a no-no. A healthy compromise on this issue would be to place an outside link for history information that Cameron has worked so hard to provide. Btw the Highway 404 page here resembles the 404 page on OntHighway.com. Now this information obviously can't be copyritten, but some of the control city information should be cited, as it is nearly word for word what appears on the Onthighways website, (which certainly would constitute plagerizing). --
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invitation to Cameron to get involved here as well. One of the challenges of this site is that since we don't always know exactly what other people are contributing, we don't necessarily know about copyright issues such as this until they're brought to our attention. But even if some of us do make mistakes sometimes, it's an excellent project with a great bunch of people involved, and I do think Cameron would be a very valuable contributor. Whadday'all say?
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I prefer the format "YYYY Canadian election" as one can use that in the body of articles without alteration. EG One can write "The Liberals won the 2004 Canadian election" while "The Liberals won the Candian federal election, 2004" is quite awkward. If people really feel the use of the word "federal"
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No matter if we go the bot route or not, lots of communities need things beyond bare statistics; a claim to fame or a slice of the atmosphere elevate such an article beyond dull stubdom. Official sites are a start; Googling, checking travel guides and gazetteers, or a remembered impression of a visit
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The way the "expand and improve" list is currently organised it is far too long to be useful. I'm wondering if a) we can prune it a bit and b) if we can organise it in order of priority so that those of us with some time can be directed to tackle them in some sort of order. I understand prioritising
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In regards to the Endicotts, I don't think it is correct to call the article on Endicott elder "James Endicott, Sr." for the same reason that "George Bush, Sr." is incorrect. The younger Endicott's biography, written by his son, refers to James Endicott and James Gareth Endicott, not Sr. and Jr so I
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Disambiguate by occupation or point of fame first, nation second, regions last. More people are going to know the occupation or point of fame than are going to know the region or city of birth. I mean, I could tell you Avril Lavigne is a singer, but I couldn't tell you her place of birth off the top
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It could be candidates by election and MPs by parliament. The difficulty with this is that long lasting MPs will be in many different categories. Alternatively the division could be by party, but this would need massive Liberal MP/candidate categories. A division by province would create a similar
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In conclusion, I am not trying to be difficult or stubborn, nor am I trying to make money off of my research. My highways website is free for anyone to view at their leisure. All that I am asking is to be acknowledged and credited for information that I have uncovered only through countless hours of
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In terms of photograph usage, I am generally very open to people using my pictures. Having said that, I insist that you email me to ask first, and that all users credit me (or my website) as the source beside the photo. I was extremely upset when I visited the Knowledge website on Sunday, and saw my
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However, it is NOT "common knowledge" that there was a Hwy 2A that ran from Windsor to Tilbury in the 1930s. Although this is also a "fact", it is one that was only found through years of hard research. Likewise, it is NOT "common knowledge" that the QEW from St. Catharines to Niagara Falls was once
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I would like to admit that I am one of the persons who used information from his site for wikipedia articles. Information that has since been deleted. However, I did make sure to cite the information with a link plus as Bearcat mentioned you cannot copyright facts. That is what I did. I did not copy
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It's not nearly so much about their internal party affairs as their conduct in government. The term "sponsorship scandal" is in common use in Canada; googling shows that "federal sponsorship scandal," as an exact string, beats "liberal sponsorship scandal" by about 4640 to 2030 results. "sponsorship
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hmmm... Rambot has its flaws. Although I would not be opposed to the idea, I think user generated articles are far more superior. (obviously). However we could use it to put demographic information on existing pages. There is also the issue of uninocporated communities which need articles, and there
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I know I'm a little bit late coming into the discussion, but I am very happy to say that I have had the pleasure of reading Cameron's excellent web site. In fact, I have spent many hours reading about the history of the highways of our great province, even before I was interested in editing Ontario
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which says in part: "When choosing a name for a page ask yourself: What word would the average user of the Knowledge put into the search engine? The Knowledge is not a place to advocate a title change in order to reflect recent scholarship. The articles themselves reflect recent scholarship but the
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The thing is, most people will name a person by occupation (or point of fame) before they name them by birthplace, especially a famous person. Think about a conversation between colleagues discussing someone: "Do you remember that guy James?" "Oh yeah, I know him, he works in Accounting." "No, not
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Thank you for clarifying, Cameron. I have a better understanding of your concerns, and can more easily see where the issue lies. Thus, I'd like to propose that all Ontario highway articles on Knowledge should provide a link to the appropriate page on Cameron's site. But I'd also like to extend the
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The eventual plan is to only list census subdivisions (municipalities, indian reserves) you can see the grand list on the talk page. Lists of neighbourhoods and ever little community or whatever should be listed on the page for the municipality it is in. However, all the communities on the current
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I think that part of the problem with the 'plagerizing' problem was that none of the pages were actually cited. Very few if any actually said "Highway 401 was named in 1952" this information Courtesy Cameron Bevers (for example). Anyone attending any sort of post secondary institution would not
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Based on this, it looks to me like it's not unreasonable to call it the "Liberal sponsorship scandal", or just the "sponsorship scandal", and that the nationality is a needless redundancy unless it's actually being used commonly in the news to refer to this case. Personally, I think "Sponsorship
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Considering that this entire issue was brought up due to my actions on Sunday, I feel that I ought to throw in my "two cents worth". I have actually been keeping an eye on this website for several months now. My main concern with what has been taking place here is the obvious lack of any source
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racism ("...in the hands of one Jew,") misrepresentation of genuine fact ("the editorial content of all of his newspapers would be homogenized"), and - on the other hand - some genuine and relevant fact I didn't want to just revert without addressing in some way. Hence the new, heavily sourced
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don't think the elder Endicott's middle name was Gareth. Quite possibly he hasn't a middle name. They can't be distinguished by profession since they were both missionaries. The only way to distinguish them, therefore, is by period. The only other alternative I can think of is to call one
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It might also be worth starting a list of Canada-related topics that haven't been written up, if anybody wants to do that. Maybe just a barebones list on which people can add any redlinks they come across (or create) but don't feel knowledgeable enough (or interested enough) to write up
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will have to be somewhat subjective and arbitrary but unless we put the list in some sort of order, either most pressing first or oldest article first (so in future new cases are added to the bottom of the list) in order to direct our work the list won't be of much use.
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copyrightable as intellectual property. Photos can be copyvio; actual text can be as well. But if the original authors of the Knowledge pages in question simply cite some of the same facts and figures in an article that isn't a textual replica of Cameron's page, that's
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is a list of suggested articles that haven't been created yet. I haven't systematically gone through them all (there's 78 pages worth!), but just on casual scanning I have caught some Canadian articles in the list. Maybe if we each volunteer to go through one page at a
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It needn't be. I just think it's wrong that you're looking at this from an entirely Canadian perspective, when it's meant to apply to a global audience. The US election is probably most commonly refered to in the US as "the election", but the title of the article is
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and paste his words on to the page. I just mentioned the facts. However I am feeling a little guilty about this, as I have emailed Cemeron before about photos for my website which he allowed me to use. (photos on my site by the way I have released under fair use).
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But "the election" is clearly ambiguous, there are elections going on all over the place all the time. "Sponsorship scandal" isn't ambiguous, as far as I'm aware. If failure to include geographic information in the title of a scandal is a problem, then pretty much
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while his son was not. A James Endicott disambig page should be kept (thereby excluding simply having him as "James Endicott") since the son isn't widely known by his middle name but is generally known simply as James Endicott (or Jim Endicott).
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Burrell scandal - a scandal in 2002 which arose from a number of allegations about the behaviour of the British Royal Family and their servants. Burrel was the butler who at the center of this, not sure if it counts. No nationality
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I don't see a real problem with its current organization; its length, I think, is the more troubling aspect. Any attempt to impose 'priority' would be futile, in my opinion; I say let people tackle what they can, as they come.
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photos for the QEW, 401, 409, and 427 being used without my knowledge or permission. I welcome Knowledge users to reinstate those four photos at their earliest convenience, providing that the source is appropriately credited.
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In the article, I mentioned that Cheema may be the only Canadian politician to have served in more than one provincial legislature since Confederation (the caveat added because, obviously, there were politicians from the
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I don't understand this. As far as I can see, it is a scandal involving the Liberal Party of Canada, so why should it not state this in the title? This tells me, as a non-Canadian, specifically what the article is about.
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But none of those are specifically national, and none of those alternate names is quite so vague as "Sponsorship Scandal". It's equivalent to renaming "Roman Catholic Church sex abuse scandal" as "Sex abuse scandal".
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that James, the supervisor." "Oh yeah, him!" is a scenario that's a lot more likely than "Oh yeah, I know James, he's from Anytown." "No, the other James, from Othertown." "Oh right, him!" ] 05:19, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)
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case. Obviously there's going to be your rare exception, as in both of the Mister André Bachands. But let's say there's two John Smiths. What's the likelihood they're both Canadian rock stars? ] 03:32, 30 Nov 2004
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If this were Canadipedia, then this would make sense. However, it's not, and this is why it's too vague to an international audience. If not the current title, at least mention something that makes clear that it's
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is an even nastier piece of work, but it might help to catch Canadian-related articles that haven't been categorized. Again, maybe if we each volunteer to go through one page at a time, it might be easier for
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Would it be possible to come up with a list? For Australia, we now have a list in a subpage of every federal MP and Senator without a page. If Canada has the same, maybe I can help in a couple of months.
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I dont mean to boast, but my method should probably be used as it is the most prevalent. However, someone made a system which is rivaling mine as well which we could use. Here's an example of my method:
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I think I wrote an article on someone a few months ago who served in both the BC legislature and a legislature in the Maritimes as well as the British House of Commons but I can't remember his name.
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Actually, we don't consider it really necessary for you to tell us that you're doing this. We don't have a problem with this, so you can carry on without notifying us. Just put your entries into
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comment posted there. I have not previously attempted to investigate the validity of his claims. However, I have to note that facts and figures (his primary claim of plagiarism) are most certainly
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one of them changes parties in the future, the titles can be changed at that time to reflect a new point of disambiguation; right now, avoiding the party names on the grounds that one of them
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group. That being said, I have tried my best to avoid any sort of copyright infringement. I appreciate all that Cameron has done, and I wouldn't want to diminish it in any way. As a fellow
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Pacific Scandal - involves the allegations of bribes being taken by Canada's Conservative government of Sir John A. Macdonald. Not even the nationality is mentioned in this article title.
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Actually, most people that I know (my self included) know Avril is from Napanee and Paul is from Windsor. The problemw with putting their parties in is that what if they change parties?
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There has to be some uniform layout for the community pages as well. I have added a couple communities with what I think are nice formats that maybe we could apply to all communities at
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So, I'll pose the question here -- can *anyone* think of a Canadian politican other than Gulzar Cheema who has served in the legislature of more than one province since 1867?
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titles should represent common usage." In a nutshell, "sponsorship scandal" is the common name for this thing and scandals are called by their common names here on Knowledge.
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which may be considered quasi-Canadian given that for many the last stop in the Underground Railroad was Canada. Anyone interested in voting for the nomination can go to
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scandal" gets 40700 (of course, including both subsets, our own current "Liberal Party of Canada..." usage, perhaps an obscure sponsorship scandal or two elsewhere, etc.
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Oh, gosh, that's an interesting question. All the interprovincial politicians I can think of didn't quite meet just these requirements. For brainstorming value, though:
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in their professional careers, that title tells me absolutely nothing about which one I'm going to find when I click on the link. Whereas if they were disambiguated as
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has been mooted for political office in BC. I have hazy memories of other ex-Yukon MLAs getting around a bit politically - a visual memory of one being mentioned in
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The page seems to be Locked please unlock it the truth must come out yes Belinda is a Socialist or to be pocitaly crect Belinda is a Social Democrat. - michaelm
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Iran-Contra scandal - both Iran and the Contras were involved, but the real scandal was the American Republican involvement and that's not mentioned in the title
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since the younger Endicott didn't have the title of Right Rev but I don't think its wikipedia style to include a title in the name of a biographical article.
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section on Editorial controversies, and two critical sites added to External links. Improvements much welcome - and we may all have to watch this one. :l
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Monica Lewinsky scandal - mentions one of the two major participants in the scandal but not the individual who was actually scandalized or his nationality
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I came across this, but it seems nobody is here! I'm going to look up all the Canadian Wikipedians and ask them to join up. ] 03:49, Oct 13, 2004 (UTC)
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I prefer the "YYYY Canadian election" format. I don't think the federal qualifier is implict and thus unecessary. For instance no one would think
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Siemens scandal - mentions the company involved, but not the nationality (no, not German; this scandal led to the downfall of the cabinet of Japan)
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What I have done for example if there is two people from Quebec with the same name, I will use their city of birth to disambiguate. For example
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party candidate for the federal legislature of a major en country is putatively worthy of an article, at least if a few people push for it. See
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I'd like to see some work on having all the communities in Canada eventually completed. A very big project indeed, but still an important one.
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notability is having stood for election and lost. I'm not entirely convinced that we need a category for these people, other than possibly
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How would you suggest to sub-divide it? Current and past? I am not sure I would divide the Candidates one. I welcome your comments. --
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Can we put some effort into ensuring all the articles have both tables and text? At present several have one but not the other. See
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is definitely not in keeping with Knowledge convention in these matters. I mention this because the page is less than a month old.
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Have we yet figured out how to get a complete list of all places in Canada? Perhaps StatCan has a complete list for purchase? ;)
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is required to distinguish between federal and provincial elections then lets use the format "YYYY Canadian federal election".
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I've voted on VfD in favour of keeping non-elected candidates where there was some other criterion of notability as well (eg.
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About time. I'm on hand to help if I can, but as I'm not Canadian, I don't have the knowledge at hand to draw up to-do lists.
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Sorry, this turned out way longer than I was expecting. Shall I pare it down and/or move it over to the article's talk page?
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who represented *federal* ridings in more than one province ... but these examples don't count for the present challenge.)
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Followup: Because after a week there had been no further response to this discussion except for Pdefer's, I changed the
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of the information. And on that basis, I see nothing to support a plagiarism claim. I think we need more evidence here.
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There are some utility links in Knowledge space that may be helpful to us if we want to try to coordinate our efforts.
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is outright laughable. Either one could also be considered POV, I think, for trying to hide the party's involvement.
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in there quickly, and then somebody can go in, clean up and add stuff. It doesn't necessarily have to be either/or.
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legislatures). Someone has recently challenged me on this point, although without providing any other examples.
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who have *campaigned* at the provincial level in more than one province, and there are obviously figures like
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Paul Martin is, but I've no clue where he comes from. It just makes things easier. ] 20:43, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)
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the election articles are changed. Please, however, let's discuss and decide on what the convention should be.
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Rather than prioritize, we could categorize; perhaps 'People', 'Events', 'Places and Organizations', etc...
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had made an oddly reverse migration, a federal win in Toronto to an obscure leadership of the Quebec NDP.
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parties. Anjd who was the Alliance MP who had been a member of a dubious national parliament in Africa?
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I created a stub today for geography articles in Canada. {{Canada-place-stub}} is the template thingy.
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Any river, any lake, whatever the town is on. If it's not on a river, then ommit it all together.
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format. SimonP raised his concerns at that time. The articles can be subsequently changed to the
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federal office in Ontario (Peterborough? Tory?) in the 90s. Counting fed/municipal candidacies,
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activist, and a sense of something else - but nothing concrete. I do remember talk of a former
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highways on Knowledge. I also have enjoyed reading OntHwys and I am a member of the ontroads
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I also created one for biography articles in Canada. {{Canada-bio-stub}} is the template.
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came to Windsor to teach and would make a fine Ontario MPP. (Meanwhile, wags have it that
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Agree with AndyL. YYYY Canadian election is much less unwieldy. ] 22:07, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
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has just prepared a report on the categorization of Canadian people. It is available at
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It sounds like there's enough differing opinion to put this to a vote. I'll set it up at
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was chief human rights officer in Nova Scotia and ombudsman of Manitoba, both possibly
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government), before unsuccessfully running for the House of Commons earlier this year.
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was acting as a section break on this page, making the page difficult to use properly.
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Profumo scandal - named after the person at the center of the scandal, no nationality
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Harken Energy Scandal - mentions the company name in the title, but not nationality.
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Fatty Arbuckle scandal - redirects to Fatty Arbuckle. Doesn't mention nationality.
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One now created for gov articles in Canada. {{Canada-gov-stub}} is the template.
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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I'm glad you've let us know and I've made much use of your creations already.
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of my head if you paid me. It goes the same for most politicians - I know
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about changing the name of the relevant article; I'm thinking a change to
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is in order. If I see no objections, I'll move it, probably tomorrow.
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I'd also like to see all of the Members of Parliament get pages too.
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Meanwhile, there seems to be a critical mass growing to revive the
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are many of them. Especially in Ontario, Quebec, and Nova Scotia.
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politician who has served in the provincial legislatures of both
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