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in this case there are multiple routes based on the article. So if the decision is other then delete, a rename is probably needed. In this case, from the map, there are simply too many places that were along the extremely large number of permutations for the way to be defining for anything along the trail. Yes, there may be some limited exceptions, but how would you reword the category name and the introduction to may inclusion objective instead of subjective? I suppose that a listify would be an option to address the various permutations.
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which there is NO WP policy. (Just a number of PsOV of a number of people who make repeated, and often false, assertions without making ANY attempt to explain themselves, much less making any attempt to justify their PsOV. BTW: The fact that ONE closing admin made ONE inaccurate statement which is contrary to defined WP policy and practice is NOT justification for ramming one's POV down everyone's throat.)
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