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Most contributors provide useful material, while a small number of "trolls" repeatedly deface the encyclopedia. Knowledge (XXG) is also plagued by endless "revert wars," where dueling groups keep reversing each other's changes to controversial articles. This undermines the credibility of Knowledge (XXG), which now offers an unprecedented 857,000 articles in English, along with versions in more than 100 other languages. Knowledge (XXG) is becoming a first reference stop for millions of people, from schoolchildren to journalists, including me. But many of these users don't realize a small percentage of articles are flawed. Even more troubling, there's no way to know when you've hit one of those defective entries. That's why I never put a fact from Knowledge (XXG) into one of my columns without first double-checking it elsewhere. Knowledge (XXG) is now big enough, with a core group of 13,000 active volunteers, to pre-screen all of its contents. New entries and edits could still be submitted—even anonymously—by any visitor to the Knowledge (XXG) site but would be placed in a kind of holding pen until one of the trusted volunteers took a look and said OK.

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brand bona fide non-mainstream scientific efforts as Pseudoscience, lumping them together with doctrines or ideas that would disgust any good scientist, all point in the direction of a gigantic disinformation act. Tyrannized by fanatical lefto-facho bureaucrats and by zealots of Official Science surrounded by an always-ready supply of zombified adolescents, Knowledge (XXG) has become a supplement to the imaginary 'peer-review system' that supposedly rules the secretion called Official or Big Science. The unconscious entente of Knowledge (XXG) proves the collective adherence of its participants to the brave new concept of Official Science: if it does not occur within those institutions which embody the powers of the State (Academia), the Military Mechanism and Capital, it is NOT science, nor worthy of the Media (including mainstream peer-reviewed publications), not worthy of being endorsed for the strategizing of mass-control.

136:"I think it's exactly the right price," said Michael Ross, senior vice president of corporate development at Encyclopaedia Britannica Inc. in Chicago. Major articles in Britannica are signed by the author; all articles are vetted by an experienced team of editors and scholars. The libraries that pay $ 1,500 for a set of bound volumes or the family that pays $ 60 a year for an Internet subscription are buying confidence as well as information. Ross admits to reading and enjoying Knowledge (XXG), and has even gotten ideas there for future Britannica articles. But the absence of traditional editorial controls makes Knowledge (XXG) unsuited to serious research. "How do they know it's accurate?" Ross asks. "People can put down anything." 402:

will — but you're still a fool if you don't lock and bolt your door at night. Knowledge (XXG) has generally taken the position that their community of contributors should protect, patrol and correct themselves. The site backs up each different version of an article, so in theory nothing can be irreparably damaged or vandalized beyond rescue. While there has been talk of making Knowledge (XXG) contributors register with the site before they can perform edits on the encyclopedia's articles, I recently made an edit on an article myself and was asked for no information at all. Knowledge (XXG) is a fantastic resource, but I urge a more aggressive guarding of the gates — for its own sake.

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had his work cut out. "A cursory search today suggested that these procedures - which require contributors to register basic details before posting articles - were being defeated by a relentless wave of vandals, apparently co-ordinating their assaults from a series of chatrooms dedicated to its demise. The loss of credibility has caused commentators to question whether Knowledge (XXG) is destined to follow the LA Times's doomed experiment in unrestricted internet comment, Wikitorial, which had to be closed down after just two days under a bombardment of pornographic postings." Is nothing sacred? So is Knowledge (XXG) a source of reference, or just a great big game?

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most of the contributors), the project's credibility is very uneven. If the project was lucky enough to have a writer or two well-informed about some specialized subject, and if their work was not degraded in quality by the majority of people, whose knowledge of the subject is based on paragraphs in books and mere mentions in college classes, then there might be a good, credible article on that specialized subject. Otherwise, there will be no article at all, a very amateurish-sounding article, or an article that looks like it might once have been pretty good, but which has been hacked to bits by hoi polloi.

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that it is desirable to have influence concentrated in a bottleneck that can channel the collective with the most verity and force. This is different from representative democracy, or meritocracy. This idea has had dreadful consequences when thrust upon us from the extreme Right or the extreme Left in various historical periods. The fact that it's now being re-introduced today by prominent technologists and futurists, people who in many cases I know and like, doesn't make it any less dangerous.

1102:...regardless of whether Knowledge (XXG) actually is more or less reliable than the average encyclopedia, it is not perceived as adequately reliable by many librarians, teachers, and academics. The reason for this is not far to seek: those librarians etc. note that anybody can contribute and that there are no traditional review processes. You might hasten to reply that it does work nonetheless, and I would agree with you to a large extent, but your assurances will not put this concern to rest. 845:"They are huge fans of the most conspicuous success story in the history of Internet-based collaboration: the Linux kernel. Which is not produced by a radically-democratic value-neutral mob, but rather by a pyramidal hierarchy of maintainers - experts, so judged by their peers - who exercise strong control over what code is allowed in the kernel tree. It's worth reflecting on the reason Wiki-kernel would never fly: code actually has to work, not merely be written." 21: 887:

day, and so that a failure to pay attention represents negligence on the part of the complainer. Seigenthaler, the argument goes, was clearly being an idiot when he failed to notice that day's piece of web grafitti. Instead of taking his dog for a walk, or composing an email to his grandchildren, he should have been paying ceaseless attention to ... his Knowledge (XXG) biography. To which the only honest answer is, "we don't owe you anything".

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have to become content defenders. Woe be that your take on things is off from the majority. Even if you can prove something, you're now in the situation that anybody can change it. And while that's all great in a happy-go-lucky flower shower sort of way, it's when you realize that the people who are going to change it could have absolutely no experience with the subject whatsoever, then you see where we are.

435:"Another page says that 'Knowledge (XXG) is a collaborative project to produce a complete encyclopedia from scratch. We started in January 2001 and already have over 16,000 articles. We want to make over 100,000.' That's ambition. There is no way to verify the number, but for perspective, the 6th edition of the Columbia Encyclopedia has 51,682 articles, so this is quite a tall order." 294:"This means that the wiki will go the way of the rest of the Net: downhill. Fictitious posts, spam, grudge pages, lies, politically motivated opinions, online vandalism, and all the rest will inevitably ruin the wiki concept, since the whole idea is utopian. And utopianism never works except in the lab or with religious zealots, and that's only for moments at a time. " 637:

the articles thus generated are substandard. They have therefore launched "Project Galatea," whose aim is to have still more self-selected volunteers impose "large-scale, sweeping stylistic improvements." Note that the improvements hoped for are stylistic, not a matter of accuracy or adequacy. In the "Philosophy" of the project, prospective stylists are told this:

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of technical topics that are my main interest have found them to be horribly inaccurate. And attempts to improve those entries by experts and amateurs who have done solid research are wrecked by constant updates by obviously ignorant people. Dr. MC Bishop, an archeologist and world-renowned authority on Roman armor, wrote an article on the Roman

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objectivity or fairness in the treatment of topics. Thus, when a writer called Joseph McCabe alleged in a widely distributed pamphlet that certain articles in the Encyclopedia Britannica had been unduly influenced by the Catholic church, he was charging bias. (That was in 1947, and he was quite wrong, by the way.)

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Knowledge (XXG) uses a collaborative software known as wiki that facilitates the creation and development of articles. Although some highly publicized problems have called attention to Knowledge (XXG)'s editorial process, they have done little to dampen public use of the resource, which is one of the

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Second problem: the dominance of difficult people, trolls, and their enablers. I stopped participating in Knowledge (XXG) when funding for my position ran out. That does not mean that I am merely mercenary; I might have continued to participate, were it not for a certain poisonous social or political

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Knowledge (XXG)'s proliferation owes much to the fact that we're currently in a temporary, but very familiar blip in history—one we've been in many times before. Knowledge (XXG) has sprung up to fill a temporary void. So I'm very privileged right now, as a member of the San Francisco public library,

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This brings us squarely to the question of the uses of Knowledge (XXG), and in particular, those that concern protection of the interests of Big Science. For Knowledge (XXG) is at the intersection of this Knowledge Warfare. Its cult of the sanctity of mainstream peer-review, and its determination to

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You can't do a Web search on any major topic without this wiki popping up near the top of the results page. Heavily linked, authoritative, and constantly updated, the world's largest interactive encyclopedia came into its own this year Popular, yes. Accurate? Not necessarily. Because its entries can

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Who could possibly hail this as good news? Two camps, we think. People with a real chip on their shoulder about authority, as we saw earlier this week. People with a contempt for learning, many of you say. But more broadly, only someone more obsessed by process than by the end result can regard this

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Knowledge (XXG)'s defenders point to the open model, where anyone can make changes, as another example of shrugging off responsibility. So Knowledge (XXG)'s second defense rests heavily on the assumption that everyone in the whole world is participating, watching, and writing at every moment of the

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They also use the most charming of debating techniques, which is to allow you to make a long list of salient points and pull in a wide range of empirical observations to back up your argument, and then ignore them completely. Then they respond with something along the lines of "Are you being paid to

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Thank you for your compliments, and my apologies for taking so long to reply. I'm afraid that I have to refuse your request to use Legio XX images on Knowledge (XXG), and not just because of the commercialism. While I have never consulted Knowledge (XXG) myself, others who have looked up the sorts

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Knowledge (XXG) entries are nothing but the emergent effect of all the angry thrashing going on below the surface...if you want to really navigate the truth via Knowledge (XXG), you have to dig into those "history" and "discuss" pages hanging off of every entry. That's where the real action is, the

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The problem is in the way the Knowledge (XXG) has come to be regarded and used; how it's been elevated to such importance so quickly. And that is part of the larger pattern of the appeal of a new online collectivism that is nothing less than a resurgence of the idea that the collective is all-wise,

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It's just my opinion, but I that the people who run Knowledge (XXG) are being lax in regulating the process their contributors have to go through in order to add their edits to the site. It's a bit like living in a community in which you assume that everyone is trying to coexist in a spirit of good

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However, Knowledge (XXG) allows anonymous editing. Thus those who honestly correct incorrect information are penalised, whereas those willing to edit anonymously, or create sinister false online personas, are given free rein. Johann Hari used Knowledge (XXG) as a weapon to attack other journalists,

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You may question if it matters whether Shapps is reported as having four or five O-levels. The trouble is that ease of access to articles on Knowledge (XXG) means they're often used as sources for the media. Knowledge (XXG) has mutated from an encyclopedia into the central source for information on

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A quick browse through the profiles of MPs reveal that a huge number have entries which tortuously detail trivial events in their political lives. For example, Damian Green's Knowledge (XXG) entry devotes well over 1,000 words to his 2008 arrest alone; for comparison that's more than three times as

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inserted the error that abolitionist Frederick Douglass once lived in Syracuse and was the first African-American elected to the city council. That lasted about an hour and a half before it was removed. Another contributor added Al Fasoldt, journalist, to the entry's list of famous Syracusans. That

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In theory, Knowledge (XXG) is a beautiful thing—it has to be a beautiful thing if the Web is leading us to a higher consciousness. In reality, though, Knowledge (XXG) isn't very good at all. Certainly, it's useful—I regularly consult it to get a quick gloss on a subject. But at a factual level it's

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This realization forced the Wikimedia Foundation to start work on a formal editorial process for Knowledge (XXG). Wales isn't sure how it will work yet; contributors might still be anonymous. But there will probably be an editorial board staffed with experts in various fields. They'll be identified

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This is what the inherent failure of wikipedia is. It's that there's a small set of content generators, a massive amount of wonks and twiddlers, and then a heaping amount of procedural whackjobs. And the mass of twiddlers and procedural whackjobs means that the content generators stop being so and

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The news of the "shooting" even made the venerable London Times, yesterday. The Times noted that after the first Seigenthaler scandal broke, the now "deceased" Jimmy Wales had, as he has so often, promised to tighten up a few nuts and bolts in the "encyclopedia's" editorial processes. He certainly

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Involvement in Knowledge (XXG) has taken its toll on a significant number of decent, fair minded people who with the most honorable intentions, have tried to alert the project to its social responsibilities and failed. Such voices could be heard on the Knowledge (XXG) mailing list, speaking up for

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But something is changing since we last wrote about Knowledge (XXG) a year ago. Even project founder Jimmy Wales has been obliged to admit its entries are "a horrific embarrassment". Readability, which wasn't great to begin with, has plummeted. Formerly coherent and reasonably accurate articles in

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One simple fact that must be accepted as the basis for any intellectual work is that truth – whatever definition of that word you may subscribe to – is not democratically determined. And another is that talent, whether for soccer or for exposition, is not equally distributed across the population,

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from planning. As an example, the planning of the coverage of the fifteenth edition of Britannica took an in-house staff and dozens of advisers several years to complete. That was forty years ago; it would be harder now... imbalance is a judgment, not a fact, and... it cannot be reduced to numbers.

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project to "improve the coverage of the encyclopedia... needs to begin with a clear distinction between "bias" and "imbalance"... The Wikiproject seems to concern itself with topics that are treated in insufficient detail or not at all; to me, this is addressing imbalance. "Bias" denotes a lack of

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Same day. The Knowledge (XXG), an online project to create an encyclopedia by means of contributions and editing by volunteers, irrespective of their knowledge of their subjects or ability to write coherently, has just lately begun to come to grips with the fact that some substantial proportion of

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Knowledge (XXG) keeps getting in trouble because its open model—where anyone can write and edit entries—is an invitation for character assassination, ideological crusades and outright vandalism, as well as legitimate scholarship. The result of Knowledge (XXG)'s open editing system is predictable:

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So Knowledge (XXG) gets it wrong. Britannica gets it wrong, too. The important thing about systems isn't how they work, it's how they fail. Fixing a Knowledge (XXG) article is simple. Participating in the brawl takes more effort, but then, that's the price you pay for truth, and it's still cheaper

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What I realised - perhaps it was the mention of Scientology - is that Knowledge (XXG), and so many other online activities, show all the outward characteristics of a cult. There is a quasi-religious fervour surrounding the "rightness" of Knowledge (XXG), or Apple's products. To outsiders, it makes

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Knowledge (XXG) has another sort of credibility problem, mentioned in passing above, and I fear that time is not a solution to this problem, the way it might be to the foregoing one. Namely, one can make a good case that, when it comes to relatively specialized topics (outside of the interests of

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Is imbalance in Knowledge (XXG) "systemic"? I should rather say that it results inevitably from a lack of system. Given the method by which Knowledge (XXG) articles are created, for there to be any semblance of balance in the overall coverage of subject-matter would be miraculous. Balance results

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This happens because Knowledge (XXG) has become a magnet for political nerds who want to fight proxy battles. With a general election two and a half years away, some think the best way to damage the other side is to use Knowledge (XXG) as a vehicle for smears. Equally, many see it as nothing more

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published an unsigned article about Knowledge (XXG) entitled "Written by whoever wants to", casting doubts on the encyclopedia's reliability. According to the article, the freedom entailed by Knowledge (XXG) is a cause for its success, but "it is also Knowledge (XXG)'s greatest flaw, because its

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chose 42 science articles from both Encyclopedia Britanica and gave peer reviewers a blind test to find mistakes. That gave the free-for-all web site a fighting chance — as it excluded the rambling garbage and self-indulgence that constitute much of the wannabe "encyclopedia" social science and

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Criticism of the project from within the inner sanctum has been very rare so far, although fellow co-founder Larry Sanger, who is no longer associated with the project, pleaded with the management to improve its content by befriending, and not alienating, established sources of expertise. (i.e.,

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This lack of respect for expertise and authority also explains the second problem, because again if the project participants had greater respect for expertise, there would necessarily be very little patience for those who deliberately disrupt the project. This is perhaps not obvious, so let me

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In a medium defined by timeliness—news, as compared to an encyclopedia article, which can be authored over months or years—collaborative editing is not likely to result in objective reports, but rather a battle of perspectives very much like the starkly partisan George W. Bush articles authors

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The first, and the most immediately absurd of these two defenses, is that since nothing at all can be trusted, er, "definitively", then Knowledge (XXG) can't be trusted either. This is curious, to say the least, as it points everyone's expectations firmly downwards. Only a paranoiac, or a mad

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My "biography" was posted May 26. On May 29, one of Wales' volunteers "edited" it only by correcting the misspelling of the word "early." For four months, Knowledge (XXG) depicted me as a suspected assassin before Wales erased it from his website's history Oct. 5. The falsehoods remained on

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For it lacks one vital feature of the traditional encyclopedia: accountability. Old-school reference books hire expert scholars to write their articles, and employ skilled editors to check and double-check their work. Knowledge (XXG)'s articles are written by anyone who fancies himself an

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You may certainly add links to any page of the Legio XX site, or to my other websites. That's what the Internet is for, after all, and the contents are safe from tampering. I hope that will help lead people to more reliable information. Unfortunately, that's probably all I can do for

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Here is what I wonder: Whence this notion that citizens, especially those who aspire to careers of informing the rest of us, need not bother with what once would have been considered the common body of knowledge? And where on earth did the idea arise that knowledge might actually be a

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person, can sustain this level of defensiveness for any length of time however, and to hear a putative "encyclopedia" making such a statement is odd, to say the least. This defense firmly puts the blame on the reader, for being so stupid as to take the words at face value. Silly

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produced at Knowledge (XXG) that resulted in the editing interface being locked down. In a situation where the reader needs information quickly in order to make a judgment about events or their role in them, the collaborative approach to authoring information may be too slow.

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I remain convinced that Knowledge (XXG)'s confidence in its self-correction mechanism is an illusion, that the editing it does is inadequate, and that the outright errors and constant manipulation of entries by interested parties make it an unreliable

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Self-editing is forbidden is to stop self-promotion; however, it can lead to frustrating situations when false information appears. For example, Philip Roth complained recently that Knowledge (XXG) would not accept him as a reliable source on his own

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This page is intended to list quotations from critics of Knowledge (XXG), especially in publications, whose criticisms may be contested. Please cite sources of the quotations. (Contradicting evidence may also be appropriate to list under a given

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to be able to tap into expensive databases I couldn't otherwise afford. In ten years time, these "member's societies" will be the norm, and most of us won't even realize we're members. The good stuff will just come out of a computer network.

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After the free, online Knowledge (XXG) got a favorable mention in a Dr. Gizmo column, then a letter from Liverpool High School librarian Susan Stagnitta, technology writer Al Fasoldt questioned whether the do-it-yourself encyclopedia is

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be edited by anyone, the Knowledge (XXG) can be the source of dubious or biased information. ith more than 800,000 articles in English and well over 1 million in 15 other languages, foolproof policing is well nigh impossible.

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In addition to the numerous errors introduced by ignorant or careless contributors, it is widely known that some public figures employ interns or staff members to monitor their Knowledge (XXG) entries to edit out unfavorable

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I do not blame computers or the Internet. Well...except for one thought that gives me pause. How is it that these tools that were to make achieving our lofty goals easier have instead been commandeered to move the goal

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At Knowledge (XXG), in spite of the game of Truth or Dare and the flurry of attention paid to Syracuse, there are still at least three mistakes on that page, one of which has been there since the reign of Louis XIV in

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What they don't like to talk about is that on Knowledge (XXG), the truth is determined in the end by a physical contest: whoever has the endurance to stay awake at a keyboard and maintain his version of the edits

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Knowledge (XXG) isn't great because it's like the Britannica. The Britannica is great at being authoritative, edited, expensive, and monolithic. Knowledge (XXG) is great at being free, brawling, universal, and

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The magazine stated that Knowledge (XXG)'s correction mechanism "works better in subjects in which many people are interested , such as technology. It becomes disastrous in obscure or political themes".

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A few years ago, Microsoft Corp. scoffed at free software; today the company is running scared. Britannica's Ross seems a lot more relaxed about his company's future. It's difficult to see why.

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I emailed a reenactment group with some images of pretty well-made replicas of Roman equipment, asking if I could add their images to Knowledge (XXG). The full text of their reply is below.

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One side said the experiment showed that Knowledge (XXG) is self-healing, even from a fraudulent attack. The other side said that for those hours, the encyclopedia was wrong.

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lasted about 45 minutes. Seeking a more difficult test, Halavais announced in his blog that he had made 13 errors in 13 subjects. All were caught and fixed within hours.

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while a robust confidence is one's own views apparently is. If there is a systemic bias in Knowledge (XXG), it is to have ignored so far these inescapable facts.

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unreliable, and the writing is often appalling. I wouldn't depend on it as a source, and I certainly wouldn't recommend it to a student writing a research paper.

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Naturally, I want to unmask my "biographer." And, I am interested in letting many people know that Knowledge (XXG) is a flawed and irresponsible research tool.

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as any kind of victory — something all the popular press missed in their anxiety to gives us an upbeat, good news story from Planet Knowledge (XXG) yesterday.

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From Techdirt.com came this challenge: Add a mistake to the encyclopedia's entry on Syracuse, N.Y., and see how long it takes for someone to fix it.

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say that by Microsoft, or just doing a mate a favour?" (to quote one email received this week on the topic of open source software development).

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Britannica turned up 123 "errors", and Knowledge (XXG) 162. In other words, the quality of information coming from Knowledge (XXG) was

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the technical section have gotten worse as they've gotten longer. And most interesting of all, the public is beginning to notice.

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The Britannica tells you what dead white men agreed upon, Knowledge (XXG) tells you what live Internet users are fighting over.

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In a column published a few weeks ago by my companion Dr. Gizmo, readers were urged to go to the Knowledge (XXG) Web site at

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Notice that much of the criticism is based on how they perceive the process of Knowledge (XXG) and not the actual quality.

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references this page, describes Bray, Fasolt and Jasco criticisms and a Knowledge (XXG) fact checking project.

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public figures. An untrue fact can cascade through a person's life, causing all manner of problems for them.

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quality. Knowledge (XXG) is losing good editors at an alarming rate, but who can blame them for leaving?

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Tory MPs fiddling with their Knowledge (XXG) entries: Grant Shapps is just the tip of the iceberg

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began a story arc on August 13, 2006 which comments on the editing of Knowledge (XXG) articles:

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Lanier's essay triggered easily the most, and most informed, responses of any single article

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articles are subject to ignorants and ill-disposed ". It goes on to draw a comparison with

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tidily organized palimpsest of the flamewar that lurks beneath any definition of "truth."

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who is familiar with its process firsthand. Other responses to Lanier's essay came from

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This article is mainly quotations from others in response to the earlier article, e.g.:

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and puff his own achievements. Since then, plenty of others have adopted Hari's tactics.

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little or no sense. To those inside, it is the most important topic they can imagine.

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claimed the fake info stayed online for 2 days, until they removed it themselves.

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If you know of other supposedly authoritative Web sites that are untrustworthy...

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by name with the Knowledge (XXG), and stand behind the accuracy of its contents.

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made a test to try to prove their point. In the article on Brazilian President

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The hive mind is for the most part stupid and boring. Why pay attention to it?

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in the attempt to invalidate the claim in the title (in a literal sense).

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explain. To attract and retain the participation of experts...

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