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643:. Because Knowledge is not based on personal knowledge but on published sources, you are no more qualified than anyone else. If you can give reliable sources about your uncle (or anyone or anything else) then go ahead and do so: but, without such sources, there can be no article on Knowledge. Please understand that this is not a vendetta and it is not personal. It is not an insult to not have a Knowledge article. The reaction would be exactly the same if you wrote articles about my family without providing sources to show that they're notable. As has been said several times, there is no problem with having 711:, following up my earlier question: has she as a deputy representative actually taken a place in parliamentary deliberations and voting? If so, she's notable--using an analogy of the same standards as we use for athletes, that the people nominally on a team actually have to play in a regular season game, not just be there in reserve. 558:
and Astrid E. Kruse Andersen my parents. I will not speak for them here because theis lifes speak for them selves! Why is more then one entry from the same family problematic? I can't understand that this is a criteria for delition. Obviously it is so and some of the partisipants here don't want to
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I do appriciate your concern, and this is (hopefully) not onely my advocacy for family! Hopefully you will se that this is not just a personal vendetta. There are allways a possibility that mistakes have been done. There have been people "out there" trying to erase the "Kruse"-family, and I think
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to call Erilng Ove Kruse my uncle! Who would be more qualified to write about him? Probably onely his sons and sisters. I wisited him a couple of months ago, and he told about Svalbard and the war. How he met with Shetlands Larsen and giving support to the smallbouts getting people out of Norway.
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I appreciate your sentimentality for your family, but you have failed to give a rational argument grounded in Knowledge policy. Your contribution history shows a long pattern of recreating these articles after they're repeatedly deleted with overwhelming consensus. Some things don't belong in an
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I do appriciate your concern, and I do have red the "WP:GNG" and the essey "Other stuff exists"! I'm on line with this. What I'm adressing is the practice: Too many people are too concerned with deliting other peoples work. I think there has evolved a culture of "outing" others, or taking other
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Procedure was applied correctly, the nominator has a familial conflict of interest and no new evidence of notability has been presented. A note on the medals. The English version of the article and some Norwegian versions before the current one claimed that Kruse had won the Forsvarets
986:, the AFD was closed correctly, there is a clear consensus that this gentleman is not notable, within the meaning of that word on Knowledge. That doesn't mean that he did not serve honourably and professionally, but thousands do, and more is required for an encyclopedia article. 846:
Because all articles on Knowledge must obey Knowledge's policies and people feel that the articles you listed do not. The articles about members of your family are by no means the only articles currently nominated for deletion: hundreds are proposed every week.
188:(born 15 March 1944) is a Norwegian politician for the Socialist Left Party. She served as a deputy representative to the Norwegian Parliament from Nordland during the term 1993–1997. Agree, she is notable, and she is the mother of the norwegian Rock Star 689:
is another good example. Both parents and all nine children have individual articles, in addition to the one on the family itself. But each and every one of them is separately established to meet the project's notability requirements. -
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Deletion review formatting has been appropriately fixed. I also note that the user recreated the article right after posting this deletion review and making a comment on the AFD after its closure (
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contributors down, and especially new ones, like mee. This is a problem you should be more aware of! I don't want to be a "pain in the ass", my agenda is to adress a problem ...
867:, are considered to be unfit for an article on Wiki. How come, an entry about the internationally recognized musician and arranger, Assistant Professor at the University of Oslo 196:), but compared to Erling Kruse she is (sorry) a dwarf! Well - this is not my problem, but sorry to say so, but you make fools og Knowledge by showing this sort of ignorance! 375:
I can't see how that could have closed without deletion. What we need are some reliable independant sources and they appear lacking. I also see that the article has been
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I can see the need for someone to do the "clean up" job, and delete none current stuff. But, there might be need for conciderations about how this is carried out!
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only mentions the campaign and service medals, and not the Medal of Merit. Thus, the medals for which sources exist show nothing more than that he was a soldier.
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per above comments. Unanimous vote to delete by several uninvolved editors, which was properly handled by the deleting admin. This was not an abuse of process.
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May be I'm slow, but how come, an internationally recognized composer, author and Professor of Composition at the Norwegian Academy of Music, Oslo
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that Astrid E. Kruse Andersen is his/her own mother. That makes Erling O. Kruse his uncle, and this article's deletion was after the book.
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fortjenestemedalje (Armed Forces Medal of Merit) in addition to the five campaign and service medals. However, the citation to the
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I`m impressed! You delete a Norwegian Warhero - congratulations! (... Yes I know, he is norwegian, but ...) Let`s see (to compere):
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AfD closed with unanimous consensus to delete. Based on the evicence Kruse fails to meet either the relevant notability essay (
639:, not on personal knowledge. Obviously, your family is important to you but what matters on Knowledge is whether a subject is 554:
Shame on you for this delition!! Erling will be 90 this summer! Shame for deliting my mother too! I'm very proud to call late
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are nominated for delition? Go to the entrys and make up your own mind about these entries - to me it is incomprehensible!!
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I don't know if this is the right arena for that discussion, but yes she has taken place and this has now been added.
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encyclopedia. Your persistence is admirable, but sometimes if you keep on trying it just makes you look worse.
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In point of fact, neither of the two articles mentioned by Knuand above has been nominated for deletion.
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what is required for a subject to be classed as notable and, therefore, suitable for a wikipedia page.
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Then, how come, all my entries about the Kruse-family are marked for deletion:
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so if this does get overturned we need to see about attributing this.
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What exactly is a "deputy representative" to the parliament?
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Jusst Kruse, so I have corrected the above appropriately. -
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769:. This is about ensuring that Knowledge articles 449:Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Erling O. Kruse 377:translated from the Norwegian bokmal wikipedia 776:; not about trying to "erase" your family. - 744:this is a good reason for a new revision ... 8: 227:). I have speedy deleted the recreation per 257:argument fails as Drevland meets guideline 104:The following is an archived debate of the 455:Knowledge:Articles for deletion/Just Kruse 63: 885:Please, just stop. Stop. Read this page: 671:, provided all are individually notable. 637:verifiability through reliable sources 7: 1005:of the page listed in the heading. 609:Aside from what Specs said, please 28: 1001:The above is an archive of the 641:important to the world at large 1: 804:, are nominated for deletion 907:I'd encourage that you read 352:Norwegian Parliament#Members 1028: 991:04:15, 24 June 2012 (UTC) 977:20:24, 23 June 2012 (UTC) 961:20:11, 23 June 2012 (UTC) 944:21:00, 23 June 2012 (UTC) 930:18:12, 23 June 2012 (UTC) 903:13:46, 23 June 2012 (UTC) 881:13:11, 23 June 2012 (UTC) 857:12:25, 23 June 2012 (UTC) 842:12:13, 23 June 2012 (UTC) 788:16:39, 22 June 2012 (UTC) 754:22:31, 21 June 2012 (UTC) 737:06:56, 22 June 2012 (UTC) 723:19:46, 21 June 2012 (UTC) 700:18:54, 21 June 2012 (UTC) 681:17:53, 21 June 2012 (UTC) 629:17:46, 21 June 2012 (UTC) 605:17:21, 21 June 2012 (UTC) 573:16:01, 21 June 2012 (UTC) 544:12:57, 21 June 2012 (UTC) 525:09:17, 21 June 2012 (UTC) 498:08:59, 21 June 2012 (UTC) 471:06:35, 21 June 2012 (UTC) 384:02:08, 21 June 2012 (UTC) 364:08:48, 21 June 2012 (UTC) 347:00:26, 21 June 2012 (UTC) 326:22:37, 20 June 2012 (UTC) 298:22:29, 20 June 2012 (UTC) 281:22:14, 20 June 2012 (UTC) 236:21:56, 20 June 2012 (UTC) 95:18:24, 27 June 2012 (UTC) 18:Knowledge:Deletion review 1008:Please do not modify it. 826:Astrid E. 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Knowledge:Deletion review
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2012 June 19
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2012 June
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