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Chair designs can be copyrighted, certainly, but to be so they need some originality - I don't agree that the ones in the Farber image are likely to qualify. But you are correct about the US images, I should have looked at those more closely rather than making a general statement. As to the image you
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Porcelain Marks is, because he doesn't cite sources, but Bieri Pius (Suddeutscher Barock) is legit. He's got his name, CC 2.0 license, and his library on his website. Region Stuttgart is a marketing company partnered with the city of Stuttgart, but I removed them from
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Ludwigsburg Palace, the "Versailles of Swabia," is a current Good
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for interiors of buildings or sculptural works not permanently in place, so all of these images will need tags for the copyright status of the pictured elements" is completely wrong. All the elements in all the photos previously there are either original 18th century pieces or possibly in some cases
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Understand, Pius Bieri was in the light in the dark here for me here and it would be very painful to throw him away, but I'll still bow to policy. I started looking into WP:RS/SPS's exceptions and then into Pius Bieri himself and found that he was fairly recently involved in a restoration of a
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have FOP covering contents, works of art etc, just the actual structure, so is very comparable to the German cases here. Re Farben, if you think modern chair designs aren't copyrighted, you're very wrong! The
Hiawatha image is of a single work. How many works do you think need tagging for in
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Don't believe any of those would require such tagging - both
Portugal and the US have freedom of panorama covering public interiors of buildings, and looks like the only Farben interior is utilitarian rather than creative (bookshelves). As to tagging, something like
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This applies to File:Ludwigsburg,_November_2006,_27.jpg, File:J_C_W_Beyer_Celllospieler_KGM_img01.jpg, File:Ludwigsbg_mirror.JPG, File:Ludwisburg.jpg, File:RSLB_Riesen_im_Riesenbau.jpg, File:Ludwigsburg,_November_2006,_17.jpg, File:RSLB_Kirche1.jpg,
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As I've said, I don't agree with this approach, but the tags requested on the
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copies or restorations. But in any case there is no question of intellectual property rights remaining. We have never taken copyright to this excessive extent now, and it is important that this copyright creep is resisted.
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What makes sueddeutscher-barock.ch and porcelainmarksandmore.com reliable sources? As far as I can tell those are personal websites. I also think stuttgart-tourist.de, briefmarken-versand-welt.de might be a bit
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The only image that I, a copyright novice, can think of that would violate FoP is the image of the porcelains in the museum. However, those are in the collection of a state-owned museum in a state-owned palace.
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Well, no. I didn't say all of them needed to be removed, but tagged to reflect current copyright status. We have always required appropriate tagging of images where copyright has expired due to age.
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The fact that SĂĽddeutscher Barock has a free license, an author name, and a list of sources doesn't make it reliable in my mind. If
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They're original works, but I've added a reference and citation to the
Blooming Baroque website's map of the gardens. The website's map is at an angle and looking from the northeast, however. –
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the article anyway because I only referenced them once. briefmarken-versand-welt.de is also gone now. –
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It is currently "it" but as it is referring to the gardens (which is plural), it should be "they"
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the article's, but I've had aspirations for the bronze star for a long time now.
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Here's a Google Books search result for "Pius Bieri"
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Original work, 2017, by Commons user Gerd Leibrock.
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