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Chair designs can be copyrighted, certainly, but to be so they need some originality - I don't agree that the ones in the Farber image are likely to qualify. But you are correct about the US images, I should have looked at those more closely rather than making a general statement. As to the image you
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I'm myself not sure how reliable Porcelain Marks is, because he doesn't cite sources, but Bieri Pius (Suddeutscher Barock) is legit. He's got his name, CC 2.0 license, and his library on his website. Region Stuttgart is a marketing company partnered with the city of Stuttgart, but I removed them from
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Ludwigsburg Palace, the "Versailles of Swabia," is a current Good Article and Did You Know subject. The palace has four distinct architectural styles, a massive garden, hosts musical festivals annually, and once housed a porcelain manufactory. This is my first attempt at a Featured Article as well as
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for interiors of buildings or sculptural works not permanently in place, so all of these images will need tags for the copyright status of the pictured elements" is completely wrong. All the elements in all the photos previously there are either original 18th century pieces or possibly in some cases
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Understand, Pius Bieri was in the light in the dark here for me here and it would be very painful to throw him away, but I'll still bow to policy. I started looking into WP:RS/SPS's exceptions and then into Pius Bieri himself and found that he was fairly recently involved in a restoration of a
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have FOP covering contents, works of art etc, just the actual structure, so is very comparable to the German cases here. Re Farben, if you think modern chair designs aren't copyrighted, you're very wrong! The Hiawatha image is of a single work. How many works do you think need tagging for in
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Don't believe any of those would require such tagging - both Portugal and the US have freedom of panorama covering public interiors of buildings, and looks like the only Farben interior is utilitarian rather than creative (bookshelves). As to tagging, something like
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This applies to File:Ludwigsburg,_November_2006,_27.jpg, File:J_C_W_Beyer_Celllospieler_KGM_img01.jpg, File:Ludwigsbg_mirror.JPG, File:Ludwisburg.jpg, File:RSLB_Riesen_im_Riesenbau.jpg, File:Ludwigsburg,_November_2006,_17.jpg, File:RSLB_Kirche1.jpg,
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As I've said, I don't agree with this approach, but the tags requested on the Commons files are not difficult (normally). Looking for an example, I went through several FAs of historic buildings with interior photos (including
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copies or restorations. But in any case there is no question of intellectual property rights remaining. We have never taken copyright to this excessive extent now, and it is important that this copyright creep is resisted.
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What makes sueddeutscher-barock.ch and porcelainmarksandmore.com reliable sources? As far as I can tell those are personal websites. I also think stuttgart-tourist.de, briefmarken-versand-welt.de might be a bit
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The only image that I, a copyright novice, can think of that would violate FoP is the image of the porcelains in the museum. However, those are in the collection of a state-owned museum in a state-owned palace.
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Well, no. I didn't say all of them needed to be removed, but tagged to reflect current copyright status. We have always required appropriate tagging of images where copyright has expired due to age.
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The fact that SĂĽddeutscher Barock has a free license, an author name, and a list of sources doesn't make it reliable in my mind. If Porcelain Marks isn't reliable, it probably shouldn't be used.--
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They're original works, but I've added a reference and citation to the Blooming Baroque website's map of the gardens. The website's map is at an angle and looking from the northeast, however. –
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According to the SĂĽddeutscher Barock's impressum, it's Pius Bieri's personal website, and there's no indication anyone else is involved. That pretty clearly runs afoul of
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for interiors of buildings or sculptural works not permanently in place, so all of these images will need tags for the copyright status of the pictured elements
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File:RSLB_Ahnengalerie4_Bildergalerie_gegenueber.jpg, File:RSLB_Schlafzimmer_Koenig_Friedrich.jpg, and File:238_Waschgarnitur_Ludwigsburg_c1805-1816_02.jpg.
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File:Residenzschloss_Ludwigsburg_floorplan_(numbered).jpg: if the creator of the source map is unknown, how do we know they died over 100 years ago?
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and others), without finding any tags of this sort at all. I don't believe that we have ever required tagging of this type in such cases in fact.
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I can whittle down content from and then purge Porcelain Marks, but I'd like other opinions on Süddeutscher Barock's credentials. –
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cite, while there are multiple potentially copyrightable elements I suspect most if not all would fall under the same tagging.
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The first paragraph of the "Porcelain manufactory" seems to be a very close paraphrase of the porcelainmarksandmore.com page.
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didn't; he died in 1938. Should I replace the image with the original work plan on the German version of Ludwigsburg Palace?
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The references section contains a large number of sources that aren't actually cited in any of the footnotes.--
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the article anyway because I only referenced them once. briefmarken-versand-welt.de is also gone now. –
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I had no idea where to start so I opted for an ax rather than a labelmaker I don't know how to use. –
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It is currently "it" but as it is referring to the gardens (which is plural), it should be "they"
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I've restored the images to the article. Let's stop fighting and figure out which tag to use. –
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interior shots not of pieces of porcelain etc have been removed, following a comment above by
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Frisoni should be wikilinked and mentioned by whole name on his first mention in the article.
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Sorry. I missed it because a lot of them aren't listed under the author in the footnotes.--
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has been archived, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see
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I have conducted further research. Pius Bieri has also been on the team that restored
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File:Schloss_Ludwigsburg_1705.jpg: source links are dead. Same with File:A008318a.jpg
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Hi, I haven't reviewed the article's prose in detail, but here are a few comments:
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What is the source of the data underlying the various Bluehender_Barock diagrams?
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the article's, but I've had aspirations for the bronze star for a long time now.
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and he's mentioned by name as a "further reading" source in Daniel Fulco's book
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Every single reference in "References" is linked by at least one citation. –
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File:'Hiawatha's_Marriage',_marble_sculpture_by_Edmonia_Lewis,_1871.JPG
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First picture axed from article, repaired source link for the second. –
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I've rewritten the entire section from scratch and in one paragraph. –
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What tag should I be using on the images? I'm new to image copyright.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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What is the source of the data underlying the new map?
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There is no instance of the word "they" in the lead. –
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Here's a Google Books search result for "Pius Bieri"
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Original work, 2017, by Commons user Gerd Leibrock.
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Ludwigsburg Palace
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