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297:, with a little dubiety: the article is very good right now (checking again: yes, still good), but it sure is in flux. I came here yesterday to post an Object screed about choppy prose, excessive length, intimidating TOC, and committee-written Lead, but was prevented from saving by the horribleness of the servers. This morning I find all those never-posted objections taken care of, just as if PFZUN and Bantman read my mind, so support. (Checking again, yes, article still good, phew, now hurry up and save comment.)-- 75:-link (with the date when the current fares were looked up, so the used date is more clear to the readers. Also, I don't think that the names of the lines need to be colored with every mention. First mention and the legend next to the chart should be enough. Otherwise, a fine article which I'm happy to support if tweaked. It's grown loads since the last nom. 148:-- ideally a calculation of the ratio of average resident income to average ticket cost, and a comparison to the same ratio for other major public transit train systems around the world (perhaps Paris' Metro, NYC subway, Mexico City subway) and alternative modes of transportation (e.g. taxi fare across the city). 349:. I would like those links in different colours through the main text to be changed to a normal colour (not the first ones next to the map, the other ones wikilinking to the lines), however that's a minor quibble. I fixed up the references, I enthusiastically support this article! Great work :-) 312:
Heh... I agree... I ended up making a bunch of copyedits myself when the support momentum seemed to be rising to a consensus, despite the article's shortcomings. Really all these changes should have been made on peer review. I would have whined that it should have been posted there first, but
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substantive peer review before they are ready for a real vote. People pay attention here because it's the last step before the front page; really, more attention paid to PR articles would make all the articles that show up here better, and prevent major editing (like what happened here) from
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While much of this may be more appropriate for the MTR corporation article, I believe each of my questions merits at least brief mention in the nominated article. In short, I think the article as it stands looks only at the "front end" of the MTR - physical description, history of physical
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Why am I nominating this? Usually I am against granting FA status to short articles, I like long leads and written references. Here, however, is a great example of a good article without any of the qualities I usually prefer: it is short, it has only one paragraph-long lead and only online
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references. But all those things are withing the FA guidelines, and I find the article quite comprehensive. And I just love the color text :) Comments? Oh, note that this a relisting of a failed December nomination, now much improved. Old nomination discussion is here:
102:. It seems to me that there are significant holes in the article in regards to funding and administration. Granted, public finance is my profession so maybe these are obscure and not of general interest, but anyways... questions I'd like to see answered include: 318:
occuring during candidacy. I think that would be A Good Thing. The solution? Perhaps categorizing Peer Review so that articles whose next stop is FAC are separated out somehow from the rest, and could receive more attention from those interested in FAs.
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description, fares, and payment systems. It is missing a discussion of the entire "back end", which is neither adequately covered in the MTR corporation article, nor even alluded to in the nominated article.
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Was there controversy surrounding the public offering (one might expect something, since government owned entities exist to provide service at cost, while most private entities exist to make a profit)?
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Isn't this supposed to be Raul654's job? I think there are many very good reasons to leave it in his capable hands. It will be placed on the calendar in due time, no need to rush it.
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Much good information has been added, but is still lacking in some areas. I suppose I could live with supporting it even with its remaining gaps, but only after a good
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featuring this article. We need more featured articles that aren't about the USA. would like to see some of Bantman's suggested improvements added as well.
17: 359:-- Very pleased to support this article. It's well done and the pictures accompanying it just really add that extra touch of excellence. - 213:. All the colors in the text are a bit "busy", but it seems rather complete, well laid out, and balanced without being too long. 325:
Thanks, and since you raised the subject, here an inappropriate puff arising from desperation: someone please help with
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Do MTR's fares and other revenues cover the cost of operations, or is there some sort of government subsidy?
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Were they paid for with government funds (perhaps bonds?) or some sort of public-private partnership?
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short at the time of the FAC listing. Not anymore now, but still it's FA quality!! ;) -
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will be similarly honoured. Hooray for the Bloor line! Long live the Spadina streetcar!
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which has been sitting on Peer review like patience on a monument since forever!--
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and I believe all old objections have been adressed in the new article. --
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This article has improved greatly since it was nominated; I will now
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How much did the original system and extensions cost to construct?
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How has (partial) privatization affected operations and/or fares?
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Knowledge (XXG):Featured article candidates/MTR (old nomination)
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Knowledge (XXG):Today's featured article/January 22, 2005
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This can be outdated far too soon. I'd like to see an
274:. Very well written, would make a great FAC. 8: 113:HK$ 5.7 billion. Have added some figures. -- 18:Knowledge (XXG):Featured article candidates 171:(a reorganization of the info in the 40:Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 7: 143:The lead section calls the system 24: 377:. Do you agree with this action? 147:. This needs justification : --> 247:. Aside: This is your idea of a 175:section wouldn't hurt either). 1: 418: 322:19:16, Jan 16, 2005 (UTC) 163:17:38, Jan 13, 2005 (UTC) 86:10:07, Jan 13, 2005 (UTC) 401:06:55, Jan 17, 2005 (UTC) 394:06:52, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC) 291:19:13, Jan 15, 2005 (UTC) 255:12:54, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC) 217:20:39, Jan 14, 2005 (UTC) 191:23:14, Jan 15, 2005 (UTC) 179:02:24, Jan 14, 2005 (UTC) 42:01:58, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC) 381:06:42, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC) 367:02:04, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC) 353:12:47, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC) 337:07:50, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC) 327:Shakespeare's reputation 305:07:07, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC) 278:18:57, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC) 266:13:00, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC) 241:09:31, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC) 231:01:28, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC) 207:02:13, 2005 Jan 14 (UTC) 117:10:17, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC) 93:13:03, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC) 60:07:15, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC) 50:02:28, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC) 390:, as its my birthday! 373:has been posted on 284:, great article -- 73:As of January 2005 229:QuartierLatin1968 409: 417: 416: 412: 411: 410: 408: 407: 406: 386:I would prefer 351:Ta bu shi da yu 65:Minor objection 31: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 415: 413: 405: 404: 403: 402: 383: 382: 368: 354: 343: 342: 341: 340: 339: 338: 307: 306: 292: 279: 272:Strong support 269: 268: 267: 242: 232: 218: 208: 197: 196: 195: 194: 193: 192: 153: 152: 151: 150: 140: 135: 130: 125: 120: 119: 118: 96: 95: 94: 61: 54:Strong Support 51: 30: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 414: 400: 396: 395: 393: 389: 385: 384: 380: 376: 372: 369: 366: 362: 358: 355: 352: 348: 345: 344: 336: 332: 328: 324: 323: 321: 316: 311: 310: 309: 308: 304: 300: 296: 293: 290: 287: 283: 280: 277: 273: 270: 265: 264:Mailer Diablo 261: 257: 256: 254: 250: 246: 243: 240: 236: 233: 230: 226: 222: 219: 216: 212: 209: 206: 202: 199: 198: 190: 186: 182: 181: 180: 178: 174: 170: 165: 164: 162: 159: 155: 154: 149: 146: 141: 139: 136: 134: 131: 129: 126: 124: 121: 116: 112: 111: 110: 107: 106: 104: 103: 101: 97: 92: 91:Mailer Diablo 88: 87: 85: 82: 79: 76: 74: 70: 66: 62: 59: 58:Mailer Diablo 55: 52: 49: 45: 44: 43: 41: 37: 29: 26: 19: 371:This article 361:SocratesJedi 356: 346: 314: 294: 281: 271: 259: 248: 244: 234: 220: 210: 200: 184: 172: 168: 166: 156: 144: 142: 137: 132: 127: 122: 108: 105: 99: 98: 77: 68: 64: 63: 53: 32: 379:202.75.80.8 388:24 January 286:Spangineer 251:article?-- 215:Vaoverland 145:affordable 239:JuntungWu 115:JuntungWu 48:Everyking 46:Support. 331:Bishonen 299:Bishonen 253:ZayZayEM 169:copyedit 89:Done. - 399:Bantman 357:Support 347:Support 320:Bantman 295:Support 282:Support 245:Support 235:Support 221:Support 211:Support 201:Support 189:Bantman 185:support 177:Bantman 173:history 161:Bantman 78:Support 205:Pedant 100:Object 249:short 16:< 392:Páll 365:Talk 335:Talk 315:need 303:Talk 276:Páll 187:it. 260:was 258:It 225:TTC 81:Mgm 28:MTR 363:| 333:| 301:| 67:. 56:. 289:∞ 83:|

Index

Knowledge (XXG):Featured article candidates
MTR
Knowledge (XXG):Featured article candidates/MTR (old nomination)
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus
Everyking
Mailer Diablo
As of January 2005
Mgm

Mailer Diablo
JuntungWu
Bantman
Bantman
Bantman
Pedant
Vaoverland
TTC
QuartierLatin1968
JuntungWu
ZayZayEM
Mailer Diablo
Páll
Spangineer

Bishonen
Talk
Bantman
Shakespeare's reputation
Bishonen
Talk

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