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however, minor (minuscule) suggestion – I would remove the IUCN category National Park from the Geobox title. I'm not sure whether the Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty real fall within this category (IMHO they're rather Category V - Protected Landscape, but I'm not an expert here). Regardless what the IUCN definition of this category is, in most countries a national park is usually the highest level of landscape protection with preserved primal ecosystems where human activities are strictly limited; so it might be a bit confusing here. –
116:- I've added a paragraph explaining the legal status of AONBs in comaparison with National Parks - I hope this meets the comment about a statement in the lead not being supported elsewhere. I was also unsure about how to classify AONB using the IUCN definition & would be happy for this to be changed if people feel that is more appropriate. I agree with the comment that it would be useful to have a map & I have asked others for this but I do not have the knowledge & skills (or software) to do this properly.— 71:) & all comments have been addressed. The article describes this Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty in a comprehensive way. It is well written and uses appropriate images (free where possible). It is supported by a wide range of citations and has been stable for a while, with only minor edits and additions. I did not create the article but have been working, with others, on it for the last year or so. I believe it meets the FA criteria and would welcome your comments.— 231:
1) I've moved the left aligned images 2)units addressed 3)I will add something more on villages & occupations - but I'll have to take something out as it's already LONG. 4) link removed & explanation added 5) sorry I can't find this one 6) delinked 7 still working on a map. Thanks for useful
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As of the National Park Status, thanks for clarification but the thing is, I'm still unsure whether both UK National Parks and Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty could be placed in the IuCN category National Park, neither do they qualify for what a national park generally is outside the UK. I put
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which is very specifically about the area. I have removed the link to grass in this section and the second link to lead. I have removed a link to caves in the history section. I have removed a link to caving in the Caving and cave diving section as it is already in the lead for Sport, leisure and
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further. In the section on images there appear to be 2 key points: # When using multiple images in the same article, they can be staggered right-and-left & # Generally, right-alignment is preferred to left- or center-alignment. Therefore it appears it is OK to have left aligned & if you'd
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I fully support the candidacy. It's a joy to read the article. I guess it sets guidelines how an article on a protected area should be written. There's a plethora of good articles on technical subjects, human settlements, IT issues, but very few on landscape/nature related topics. There's one,
201:, which is also left-aligned causes a squeeze in the text. Suggest it be moved elsewhere. 2. Units are inconsistently used. In some places metric are given predominance, in other imperial. Please be consistent SI (imperial). 3. What about the residents of the area? 4. 143:. I make such maps myself for Czech and Slovak localities. I've scanned some maps which have region and protected area boundaries (and rivers, mountains, roads and settlemnts of course) and use them as a background layer for drawing the boundaries upon them. See e.g. 296:
The Mells river was changed to River Mells - but has since been changed back by a local who insists this is the correct name. I've added ft to 76m & changed 6-8km - but see discussion on my talk pages about putting UK units ie miles before KM as a UK article.—
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where some UK-specific information is given. As per the MoS, only articles relating to the United States have imperial before metric. If the latter has to be preferred, it needs to be debated on the MoS talk pages before coming into effect. Regards,
462:. Another map showing settlements, & key features has been offered by the AONB authorites, and they are currently checking copyright issues etc. I hope this now meets the FA criteria, but if you have any further worries please let me know. — 154:
You could also combine these two, have a satelite background map and draw the outlines on top of it. The imaps/images from Inkscape are in the vector SVG format, which is highly desirable for such purposes on Knowledge. Both
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1. latin inscription on ingots - changed 2. edited 3. added F units 4. changed 5. space added 6. will look at this along with population 7. I think I've done all of these 8. I've removed this complex sentance. —
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Very good article, and close to FA status. I could make a few very minor improvement suggestions, but in terms of what's needed to get to FA status, I think there are just two things I'd like to see:
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I have done my best to address the comments above and I think the objections have largely been met (with the exception of a climate graph). A topographic map of the hills has been added (thanks to
151:. One could of course add more features than just the area outlines. So if there's an online map or a map you can scan it is actually pretty easy (well, once you've learnt to use this software). 90:
An article lead should only ever contain a summarised version of information found elsewhere in the article - in this article I can see some info which only appears (unreferenced) in the lead.
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the IUCN category in the Geobox design as it was in the older Infobox Protected Area but I'm not using it myself for any Czech or Slovak protected areas. The field can simply be left empty.
521:, publishers should be identified on all footnotes/references, in addition to author and publication date when available, in a consistent bibliographic style. You can find samples at 243:
Thanks! 1. What is EX ARG VEB? 2. See under =Transport and communications= 3. For consistency, Fahrenheit equivalents req; 102 m (335-foot) -- missed this 4. Mells river --: -->
247:(MoS) 5. Cheddar pink(Dianthus) -- space req 6. =Notable settlements= can be converted to prosed and renamed to =demographics= 7. Convert hyphens to dashes (800-900 mm) 8. Are 148: 21: 588:
tourism. I have changed the hyphen in Anglo-Saxon within the Etymology section. Are there any other area which you still feel are over-linking to dictionary terms?—
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and have rechecked. The only error/absent details I could find was on the Barrington ref which I've now corrected. Are there others you feel need revision?—
144: 68: 488:, and many (if not most) others use some left side images to stop this. I would strongly urge that some left sided images are used for spacial harmonics. 605: 44: 569:. It's a good article, except that there's way too much linking of dictionary terms ("caves", "grass", etc). Why is there an en dash in "Anglo-Saxon"? 34: 17: 444:- I don't think there is enough data available to do this - but could you point me to an example of one & I will take a look?— 476:: Another user suggested moving all images to the right side of the article, however in my browser there is alot of white space. 592: 573: 559: 541: 509: 492: 466: 448: 434: 416: 322: 301: 288: 272: 236: 221: 175: 120: 107: 97: 75: 307: 584: 501: 430:: I'd like to see a climate graph in the climate section, if enough information to create one is available. - 403: 198: 537: 341: 351: 522: 406:
can be put to the Geobox, in the image parameter, I'd suggest switching off (erasing) map_first then.
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This article has been a Good Article since August 2006. It has recently been peer reviewed (archived
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gives: 25.25 m (82.84 ft) (the third parameter sets the rounding precision of the conversion)
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The river has not been changed, and 2 conversions have been missed out. (6–8 km) & 76 m
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is a red link; no context explaination. is given here to compensate for this. 5. AD --: -->
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There exist more conversion templates, they are even better in some aspects, e.g.
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Please unlink. 7. Like has been said above, a map is very essential.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
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Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in
171:- I've removed the IUCN classification. Still working on a map.— 481: 193:– 1. A left-aligned image in the lead is not recommended in the 87:
A map of the Hills themselves (in addition to the location map)
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if you aren't familiar with a bibliographic citation style.
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For units within the text you can use these templates:
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The link to caves in the geology section takes you to
551:- Thank you for your comment. I am familiar with the 598:The above discussion is preserved as an archive. 608:. No further edits should be made to this page. 145:Commons:Image:NP Veľká Fatra - location map.svg 47:. No further edits should be made to this page. 129:As of the maps, I can think of two solutions: 33:The following is an archived discussion of a 8: 412:- thanks I've started playing with these.— 606:Knowledge talk:Featured article candidates 505:like to do this it would be fine by me. — 45:Knowledge talk:Featured article candidates 136:which are in Public Domain (or GFDL). 18:Knowledge:Featured article candidates 7: 308:Knowledge:WikiProject Rivers#Naming 28: 1: 189:-- pending inclusion of map. 132:To use a satelite image from 35:featured article nomination 625: 593:09:42, 27 March 2007 (UTC) 574:23:39, 26 March 2007 (UTC) 560:07:02, 26 March 2007 (UTC) 542:23:28, 25 March 2007 (UTC) 510:18:29, 15 March 2007 (UTC) 493:13:08, 15 March 2007 (UTC) 467:07:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC) 449:10:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC) 435:02:55, 13 March 2007 (UTC) 417:15:39, 11 March 2007 (UTC) 323:08:43, 13 March 2007 (UTC) 306:For the River naming, see 302:19:12, 12 March 2007 (UTC) 289:18:20, 12 March 2007 (UTC) 273:16:33, 11 March 2007 (UTC) 237:15:39, 11 March 2007 (UTC) 222:12:47, 11 March 2007 (UTC) 176:15:39, 11 March 2007 (UTC) 121:12:17, 11 March 2007 (UTC) 108:11:57, 11 March 2007 (UTC) 98:11:37, 11 March 2007 (UTC) 76:10:32, 11 March 2007 (UTC) 585:Caves of the Mendip Hills 502:Knowledge:Manual of Style 373:{{unit length|m|25.25|2}} 601:Please do not modify it. 40:Please do not modify it. 387:gives: 25 ha (62 acres) 381:gives: 25 sq mi (65 km) 404:Image:Mendip_hills.jpg 199:image:Mendip_hills.jpg 56:04:34, 30 March 2007. 379:{{unit area|sqmi|25}} 367:{{unit length|ft|25}} 361:{{unit length|mi|25}} 363:gives: 25 mi (40 km) 385:{{unit area|ha|25}} 208:Mendip Gliding Club 187:Conditional Support 139:To draw the map in 369:gives: 25 ft (8 m) 163:are free software. 456:Nominators Update 249:are more vigorous 616: 603: 534: 500:- exploring the 401: 395: 386: 380: 374: 368: 362: 356: 350: 346: 340: 320: 315: 286: 281: 260: 255: 219: 214: 52:The article was 42: 624: 623: 619: 618: 617: 615: 614: 613: 612: 599: 532: 399: 393: 384: 378: 372: 366: 360: 354: 348: 344: 338: 318: 313: 284: 279: 258: 253: 217: 212: 157:NASA World Wind 134:NASA World Wind 65: 38: 26: 25: 24: 12: 11: 5: 622: 620: 611: 610: 595: 577: 576: 563: 562: 553:cite templates 545: 544: 527:cite templates 515: 514: 513: 512: 470: 469: 452: 451: 438: 437: 424: 423: 422: 421: 420: 419: 390: 389: 388: 382: 376: 370: 364: 335: 334: 333: 332: 331: 330: 329: 328: 327: 326: 325: 225: 224: 183: 182: 181: 180: 179: 178: 165: 164: 152: 137: 127: 92: 91: 88: 64: 59: 58: 50: 49: 29: 27: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 621: 609: 607: 602: 596: 594: 591: 586: 582: 579: 578: 575: 572: 568: 565: 564: 561: 558: 554: 550: 547: 546: 543: 539: 535: 528: 525:, or use the 524: 520: 517: 516: 511: 508: 503: 499: 496: 495: 494: 491: 487: 483: 479: 475: 472: 471: 468: 465: 461: 457: 454: 453: 450: 447: 443: 440: 439: 436: 433: 429: 426: 425: 418: 415: 411: 408: 407: 405: 398: 391: 383: 377: 371: 365: 359: 358: 353: 343: 336: 324: 321: 316: 309: 305: 304: 303: 300: 295: 292: 291: 290: 287: 282: 276: 275: 274: 271: 266: 263: 262: 261: 256: 250: 246: 242: 241: 240: 239: 238: 235: 230: 227: 226: 223: 220: 215: 209: 204: 203:bombing decoy 200: 197:. Similarly, 196: 192: 188: 185: 184: 177: 174: 170: 167: 166: 162: 158: 153: 150: 146: 142: 138: 135: 131: 130: 128: 124: 123: 122: 119: 115: 112: 111: 110: 109: 106: 100: 99: 96: 89: 86: 85: 84: 82: 78: 77: 74: 70: 63: 60: 57: 55: 48: 46: 41: 36: 31: 30: 23: 19: 600: 597: 580: 566: 548: 518: 497: 473: 460:User:SFC9394 455: 441: 427: 409: 357:. Examples: 293: 264: 248: 228: 190: 186: 168: 113: 101: 93: 80: 79: 66: 62:Mendip Hills 54:not promoted 53: 51: 39: 32: 22:Mendip Hills 486:Chew Valley 342:Unit length 245:River Mells 232:comments.— 191:Weak oppose 523:WP:CITE/ES 432:Malkinann 352:Unit area 581:Response 549:Response 498:Response 490:Jhamez84 442:Response 410:Response 314:=Nichalp 294:Response 280:=Nichalp 265:Response 254:=Nichalp 229:Response 213:=Nichalp 169:Response 161:Inkscape 141:Inkscape 114:Response 81:Comments 20:‎ | 533:Georgia 474:Comment 428:Comment 397:Convert 319:«Talk»= 285:«Talk»= 259:«Talk»= 218:«Talk»= 567:Oppose 519:Oppose 206:CE 6. 195:WP:Mos 105:Caroig 531:Sandy 95:SP-KP 16:< 571:Tony 538:Talk 482:Frog 347:and 159:and 69:here 590:Rod 557:Rod 507:Rod 478:DNA 464:Rod 446:Rod 414:Rod 299:Rod 270:Rod 251:?~ 234:Rod 173:Rod 147:or 118:Rod 73:Rod 540:) 484:, 480:, 402:. 400:}} 394:{{ 355:}} 349:{{ 345:}} 339:{{ 37:. 536:(

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Knowledge:Featured article candidates
Mendip Hills
featured article nomination
Knowledge talk:Featured article candidates
Mendip Hills
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Rod
10:32, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
SP-KP
11:37, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Caroig
11:57, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Rod
12:17, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
NASA World Wind
Inkscape
Commons:Image:NP Veľká Fatra - location map.svg
Commons:Image:Váh River (SVK) - location and watershed.svg
NASA World Wind
Inkscape
Rod
15:39, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
WP:Mos
image:Mendip_hills.jpg
bombing decoy
Mendip Gliding Club
=Nichalp
«Talk»=
12:47, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Rod

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