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1115:"At Jefferson and Grand Junction, the latter of the cities named for its location at the junction of the historic Chicago & Northwestern and Chicago, Rock Island and Pacific Railroads, now both owned by Union Pacific, US 30 crosses Iowa Highway 4 and Iowa Highway 144 on the northern edge of each town, respectively" - whoa, long
498:"For 4 miles (6.4 km), US 30 / US 151 / US 218 is a wrong-way concurrency; that is, where two or more routes heading in opposite directions share the same highway. In this instance, US 30 is the main east–west road while US 151 and US 218 are duplicate routes, nominally heading north and south, respectively." –
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Whenever I've written about them, I've used either as a matter of the context. In both cases you've quoted, I'd use the singular (it's a compound name for a single piece of road), but I've also used "The two highways come together and turn..." or "The two roads merge to run along...". I hope this
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I used to add a formulaic comma after all sentence-initial prepositional phrase; now I ask whether each one can be dispensed with. Occasionally it can, like "North of
Scranton it meets the northern end of Iowa 25." and "At Carroll it intersects US 71 on the western side of the city." But this one
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I am nominating this for featured article because my previous attempt went stale due to a lack of reviewers. I've worked on this article for the better part of the last year and still feel it meets the criteria. It's one of the most important roads in the state of Iowa, probably the most historic
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1591:"with much of the highway traveling through rolling farmland"—yeah, it's ok as an image, I guess; but cars do the travelling, not roads. No problem if there's no way of rewording this. You have, actually, made a good attempt to give an engaging narrative of physical environment. Nice.
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Knowledge uses? I'm sorry, I hardly find it inactionable. $ 5 million is $ 154 million 2024 USD) in today's USD, assuming 1913 is the USD in the article. It's that easy, and I think it's useful. --♫
840:"federal money started to pour in and Iowa's infamous dirt roads began to be paved." - two issues. "pour in" seems kinda amateurish, likewise calling the dirt roads "infamous". IDK, could you reword slightly to reflect what's in the article?
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1100:"Continuing east, the highway passes through the town of Glidden and passes to the north of Ralston" - can you avoid using "passes" twice? What about "the highway passes through Glidden and later to the north of Ralston."
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1174:"On the outskirts of Ames are the Lincoln Way interchanges. Access to and from Lincoln Way is handled by two half interchanges 3⁄4 miles (1.2 km) apart." - those two sentences could easily be one
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1620:"The highway runs parallel to the Boyer River, as well as the Overland Route, in a general northeast direction from Logan." I though the commas went bumpety-bump. Does it work without them?
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1080:"it intersects U.S. Route 71 at a signal-controlled intersection" - two issues. First, you use intersects and intersection in the same sentence. More importantly, you only link to
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Better, but in that same sentence, is there any way you could clear up the clunky writing of: "Lincoln Highway followed and US 30 follows"? --♫
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Not at all. Who raised the money for the road? Who designated the highway? --♫
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1461:"and a 17-mile (27 km) southern jaunt through Belle Plaine" - jaunt, really?
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I'm actually really sorry, I'm used to hearing jaunt as a slang word. --♫
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You still say "infamous", which I think is a poor choice of words. --♫
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rep: "it passes through the flat Missouri River bottoms, passing"
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Ehh, but you turned it into a sentence fragment. --♫
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1011:Imzadi 1979
890:Reworded. –
843:Reworded. –
667:Found it. –
627:Reworded. –
54:Laser brain
480:overboard.
384:I can now
345:Removed. –
1379:Inflation
1030:WP:MOSNUM
390:Admrboltz
272:Admrboltz
253:Admrboltz
1752:Fredddie
1712:Fredddie
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1585:Comments
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