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Not one that is as accurate as the ArenaFan references. Also, there's a comprehensive list of AFL players on ArenaFan that lists ~30 AFL players that could be included on this list if ArenaFan can be determined to be a reliable source. I've added the ~30 players in a formatted table on the talk page
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Quick question: Would
American football need changed to simply football? What about the section head for "gridiron football" since in the US, it would simply be known as football. I chose gridiron as an overview since that section contains Canadian football, and indoor football players, not just
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Just because a WikiProject says a source is reliable doesn't mean it actually is. In this case, their assertion that the site having multiple contributors makes it reliable is questionable to me. I'm going to leave this out in case other reviewers want to comment on it. Maybe they'll have some
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I reviewed this source and found it questionable. It is a good clearinghouse for links to other, more reliable sites about arena football, but its contributors are not individually vetted and there's no proof that it is reliably edited or has any sort of professional/expert oversight. —
633:"Every entry meets the notability criteria for its own non-redirect article in the English Knowledge. Red-linked entries are acceptable if the entry is verifiably a member of the listed group, and it is reasonable to expect an article could be forthcoming in the future" from
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No, we need to acknowledge that some articles haven't been written yet, that's why red links are good, they show a notable article is yet to be created. Less than one in five isn't so bad, many FLCs come here with much more than that, they're usually rejected.
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599:"Only 17%" is not minimal. That's almost 1 in 5. Minimal to me is 5% or less. If we're going to allow 17% we may as well all 100%. If someone is notable for an FL they should have an article.
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Piping is fine. Just surprised that you thought soccer wasn't normal US English.
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I've gone ahead and brought up the validity of www.arenafan.com on
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That's embarrassing. I found that table sorting description from
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