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keeping these userboxes out of officially sanctioned areas which would suggest to new users that this is an official thing that one ought to be doing. There would still be restrictions on the range of possible userboxes, of course, but this is not different from the restriction on all manner of things people might put on their userpages already.
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searchable. They are considered acceptable in Babel boxes, those claiming professional or academic expertise, WikiProject affiliations, and the like. Consensus on this issue has not yet emerged; please help discuss this on the talk page.
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