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participate here do it primarily as a means to the end of serving another project, because that project depends on
Commons for media resources. Maybe that's not what we'd wish, but we can't expect to gain more active participants by being insular. Increasing the visibility of Commons edits might make irregular visitors more active, though.
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be bothered to open multiple watchlists, especially new editors who barely understand watchlists, signatures, time stamps, etc.. Other
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People could select which watchlists to unify, and which ones to keep separate. People could have more than one integrated watchlist. Many new
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Knowledge (XXG) watchlist. The added watchlist can be expanded,
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Strategy Wiki. Unified watchlists could help. The ability to combine all the Wikimedia watchlists (or at least all the ones outside Knowledge (XXG) and the Commons) would
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Lack of an integrated, global watchlist is a reason cited by many people as to why they don't edit much on other wikis outside
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implementing this by parsing the text of individual watchlists, for instance, combining the data, and time- and date-sorting it. Or we might create some code that will allow rapid downloading of one's watchlist, perhaps in a CSV or other database format, which can then be more reliably parsed.
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responding to the concerns of the project. Administrators can't contact these people because their talk page on the project is never read. Meanwhile, they are active on their original project, and could be contacted if there were an integrated watchlist.
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