1256:, so saying this is troll food... doesn't make sense. If it provokes some people, well fuck them. Seriously, there is no disruption from a user page that someone would have to seek out to look at, and is titled in such a way that you know what's on it. People have lots of weird subpages, like those silly wikistress ones (why a whole subpage..). I understand that we shouldn't be stupid with user pages, but this is just a userpage with images that are already here. A subgrouping, that the author, and other editors, can honestly use for finding such images. If the images are a problem, then delete the images. I don't have a major attachment to such a userpage, but there's no good reason to delete it. I don't buy the vandal bait bit, when such images are found in the articles themselves. Again, delete the non-article images, keep the page. --
84:; this is not a censorship issue, so, please, don't suggest that as a reason to keep this page. Nor is it a copyright issue, as all fair use images are piped, rather than featured in the gallery, and I don't believe the page should be deleted because of that. No, the page ought to be deleted because it serves no purpose other than to feature lots of pointless images that various trolls have gotten away with uploading to Commons, and it exists solely to make a rather childlish point - 'look how uncensored we are!'. User subpages are for article work, not hosting lots of amusing pictures of genitalia. Most are not used on articles.
80:. It's a gallery of all the rude pictures on Commons, none of which feature in articles, plus some pictures on Knowledge (XXG) which do feature in articles. Putting aside all thoughts on Common's policies which allow pictures of (snicker) willies and (giggle) boobies to be kept, regardless of value or use, this serves absolutely no benefit to Knowledge (XXG). Yes, it's on user space, but it serves no positive benefit to Knowledge (XXG). It's also vandal bait. I heartily agree that
1206:- Knowledge (XXG)'s not a web space provider. Nor should Commons be (its policies state as much), and this page tells Commons that the image is in use, providing justification for it to stay on Commons when a usage check is run. It's a circular con - the image is hosted on Commons, so it's okay to use on Knowledge (XXG). The image is on Knowledge (XXG), so it's okay to keep on Commons.
784:. And non-censorship is about giving pictures of "naked babes" equal rights to the pictures of "bricks" or "swastikas". Finally, I cannot imagine anyone jerking off to this collection of classical statues and artwork, sterile closeups of penes and breast and drawings of sex positions, with the web having millions of purpose-built porn pages just for that purpose... --
703:
Picture galleries of any pictures (which have not been deleted and thus are potentially useful for the encyclopedia) are (1)not performance degrading, since they are just links, (2) useful for weeding out the pictures which truly should be deleted (like 990 out of 1000 brick JPEGs, for instance), (3)
1401:
page); and see MediaWiki developer
Simetrical's comment above on the whole resource-drain non-issue. If all "vandal bait" should be deleted, we might as well shut down Knowledge (XXG). The core of this complaint is the beginning of the third sentence: "It's a gallery of all the rude pictures".... If
851:
These, my friend, are the goals of free speech I was talking about. Will a gallery of naked babes result in good and just government? Will a gallery of swastikas give you an informed public who knows the facts about
Germany? You're turning free speech from a means to an end, into an end in itself --
667:
If someone had uploaded hundreds of unused photos of bricks to commons, and put a gallery to them in their userspace on
Knowledge (XXG), would we permit it? Of course we wouldn't. And what's the difference? "Knowledge (XXG) is not censored!" is often used as a non sequitur to let Knowledge (XXG)
1536:
that go toward a contrary proposition. Michaelas10 is right, in any event, that the only relevant questions are (a) whether the community disapproves generally of user pages of productive contributors that comprise principally non-encyclopedic content and (b) whether, should the community so
838:"The basis of our government being the opinion of the people, the very first object should be to keep that right; and were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter."
1527:
As regards content, that is quite right, but I wonder whether we ought to understand as well-settled the idea that community does not disfavor user pages or subpages that, whilst composed of encyclopedic content, don't appear to serve any particular encyclopedic content. I suppose that
1396:
to vandals and trolls. That it includes pictures not yet used anywhere else is a plus, not a minus, since it allows editors to avoid duplicating other articles' content. Not such a drain on resources, as it doesn't "host images" (see source, what it really contains is text, just like a
614:, it's due do with actual value to the encyclopaedia versus the cons of having such a troll magnet. Does it contribute, at all, to building a better encyclopaedia? It does not. So why's it here, other than to prove the usual pathetic point about Knowledge (XXG) being uncensored?
161:
You miss the point: If it is well-known (and it is, certainly among admins and old-time users) and has not been deleted in two or three years, there might be the slightest chance that it might have been regarded as being useful for some purpose... -
1148:
an collection of images that are likely to be sex-cruft all in one place, making it easy for a concerned editor to do a periodic sweep for all the "Here is a picture of my p33n for the sake of knowledge" that would otherwise accumulate off in the
1369:
concern. Can you at least have the decency not to create such silly strawmen? As I said above, this whole thing's childish -- nude pictures aren't going to give you good government, which is the goal of free speech in the first place.
437:
Yeah, but note that the MFD on Cyde's porn collection was a 'speedy keep' as it was created by a single purpose account, yet will still ensure the page has magical MFD immunity for at least six months (the GNAA used to do that).
265:
71:
I found this page whilst clearing up another piece of template vandalism which resulted in pictures of a big cock and balls being on a few hundred
Knowledge (XXG) articles. This gallery survived a prior AFD (which is
933:
deleting the page under discussion would not save any significant amout of space on the server. The page doesn't have the pictures, just their ASCII names. If you want to save space on the server, you need to get the
571:). You may ignore the copyvio arguments (as neither the page nor the images are), but pay close attention to the censorship argument, as censorship is exactly the purpose Proto has in mind, even if he denies it. --
693:"Knowledge (XXG) is not censored" is a basic tenet and means just that. If you have a problem with depiction of nudity ("pee pees and poo poos" in your language), then stay away from such images/articles/userpages.
459:
I would be very careful of accusing experienced and old-time wikipedia users of being sockpuppets. Such allegiations detract from the power of your argument. (And
Markaci is not me either, incidentally.) --
1068:
668:
user space to be used to host hilarious pictures of pee pees and poo poos. The other comments you put up in what can only be an attempt to obscure the argument are similarly irrelevant non sequiturs.
1040:
841:"Whenever the people are well informed, they can be trusted with their own government; that whenever things get so far wrong as to attract their notice, they may be relied on to set them to rights."
1529:
888:. Keeping this gallery would set a horrible precedent: imagine if I uploaded a few thousand images of trees onto Knowledge (XXG), wasting a gigabyte of webspace, just to put them in a gallery? —
872:
There's all kinds of stuff in user space that doesn't add any actual value to WP. It's tolerated unless there's an actual affirmative reason to remove it. No convincing reason has been offered. --
425:
131:
You omit to say that
Markaci's page came way before the project (and was probably one of the reasons for it), and that it is way more complete, and is way more well-known among Wikipedians. --
200:
1067:
This really should have been taken to the policy level for wider community input, since this effort may be used to set standards by setting a precedent, as well as drawing one from the
581:(huge list of comments from last MFD, none of which were raised as points in this MFD anyway moved - read the last AFD, rather than cut and paste it all in here to obfuscate the issue)
73:
816:-- If the page gives no "personal opinion", then what other use does it has in Knowledge (XXG) at present? If the page does give a "personal opinion", then doesn't it breach WP:POINT?
309:
1191:
it provokes some people (hey, I know they shouldn't be so uptight, but they are) - it's only there to provoke, and it's the definition of making a point to disrupt
Knowledge (XXG).
1537:
disapprove, there is nevertheless some tangential encyclopedic purpose served by the page (or at least by the images thereof that are used or likely might be used in mainspace).
1331:
frankly, I don't buy it, Proto. It seems pretty clear from the remarks of the party to delete -- including you -- that the page's sexual nature is part of their motivation. --
1406:
useful purpose? Maybe just looking at it keeps some of our less helpful brethren too busy to be active nuisances for a while, reducing the burden on our anti-vandalism crew.
1122:
I agree with him, and would like to point out that if userpages like this are deleted, we should also delete all these "juvenile" pages with "lots of childish images"
780:
Doesn' violate WP:NOT#WEBSPACE, as it is only a collection of links to other WP content. Doesn't violate WP:NOT#SOAPBOX, as there is no personal opinion on that page,
210:
1091:
five hours before this AfD was listed, so five days later (well, actually less than four, but who isn't counting?), I am directing your attention to its pertinent
245:
490:
I am sorry for that, Proto, I got mixed up up with your comments and Doug Bell's. (And Doug, I am afraid the joke is not evident from your comment itself...) --
107:
1356:
you're making my point for me, Bi. If your concern is whether people want to use the page for its sexual interest, then your aim is precisely censorship. --
386:
I agree. There are valid reasons for deleting many of them from commons which I intend to pursue once the "check usage" toolserver is back up at commons. —
355:
1008:
948:
1153:
Really it's no different from the category "nudity" over at
Commons, except that it includes images from more places. It's useful for the same reasons.
638:
Sorry, but screaming 'censorship' every time someone tries to remove junk is pathetic. If it doesn't help the encyclopaedia, it shouldn't be here.
1436:. Yet as soon as anything utterly encyclopaedic happens to involve nudey pictures, anyone who wants to get rid of it is a censor, or a prude.
255:
828:
1655:
1643:
1631:
1615:
1603:
1578:
1557:
1541:
1515:
1482:
1470:
1452:
1374:
1360:
1348:
1335:
1319:
1298:
1269:
1260:
1242:
1222:
1173:
1130:
1113:
1028:
1003:
988:
968:
942:
925:
876:
856:
788:
775:
751:
733:
712:
684:
654:
629:
597:
575:
513:
494:
485:
464:
454:
432:
412:
390:
381:
363:
230:
166:
156:
135:
126:
100:
59:
17:
1500:
what kind of pictures these are, as long as they are not fair use images put up on the user namespace, which is not an issue anymore.
917:
215:
996:. This is not a censorship issue. Rather, this page serves no legitimate purpose and is thus an unnecessary drain on the servers.
1252:, but take images that are only used in userpages to IFD. If a troll wants to find a picture of a penis then they can just go to
1024:
964:
717:
I have no problem with nudity. It has its place in the encyclopaedia. Sub galleries created purely to make a point are not it.
235:
1402:
it were a gallery of different kinds of fish, or trees, or architecture, I truly doubt we would be having this conversation. No
844:"We are not afraid to follow truth wherever it may lead, nor to tolerate any error so long as reason is left free to combat it."
23:
1432:
right. If it were a gallery of all the commons images of trees or cars, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Because it
1426:
If it were a gallery of different kinds of fish, or trees, or architecture, I truly doubt we would be having this conversation
771:. And yes, it's childish. I thought free speech had nobler goals than to allow people to jerk off to pictures of naked babes.
330:
1415:
1344:
that you want to keep the page so that you can jerk off to it. Can you at least give a better argument than outright denial?
350:
1478:. I'm perplexed by this, too. Why would or should we delete some user's gallery of images of bricks or fish or haystacks? —
110:(my favourite project - motto, "I want you all to see lots of pictures of my cock! And you have to! WINC WINC WINC WINC!")
335:
340:
220:
1670:
980:
per above. This page is only a liability. I've actually put one of the notorious images hosted locally for deletion at
43:
345:
205:
1053:
250:
260:
1303:
Not the issue, folks, and irrelevant to the debate - please actually read why the page has been brought to MFD.
421:
240:
621:
Thank you for trying to discredit my argument by name-calling... Pray, isn't it possible that your statement
288:
1669:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a
270:
42:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a
523:, here are some reasons recycled from the last debate two years ago, by a variety of users(users who voted
947:
That doesn't save space either, since deleted images are kept in the database (for possible undeletion).
912:
225:
1088:
194:
65:
1554:
1508:
1479:
625:
might be interpreted as slightly biased towards censorship of nudity to get a "proper encyclopedia"? --
1573:
1075:. This goes outside the scope of discussion of miscellany entries for deletion in this case, since the
293:
36:
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellany page below.
1492:. Oh please there are plenty of users who hold galleries in their user pages and user subpages, even
1020:
960:
564:
1093:
556:
1599:
1595:
747:
per arguments raised by the old debate, however I don't see a need for it so my stance is neutral.
552:
377:
373:
187:
Along with this page, perhaps some of the images should also be deleted. The following images are
1566:
1628:
1286:
325:
320:
315:
1145:
a resource for people looking for images to illustrate articles on sex, art history, or anatomy.
1123:
1104:
997:
813:
768:
1640:
420:
per nom, although these pages seem to be MfD resistent. Maybe
Markaci is a sock for Cyde: see
1565:. As far as I'm concerned, established users keeping galleries in their userspaces is fine. –
889:
607:
1076:
1503:
832:
536:
1590:, which is there to be a repository of media, not just images currently used in wikipedia.
1533:
1280:
1203:
1080:
981:
809:
803:
764:
760:
405:
81:
1462:
I think your assertion here is just factually false. I have never seen any such galleries
1446:
1313:
1236:
1216:
1012:
1000:
952:
727:
708:
picture to include in an article. Thus they contribute to build a better encyclopedia. --
678:
648:
591:
479:
448:
150:
120:
94:
1591:
1586:, and the complaints about the images not being in articles are bogus, because they're
1467:
1357:
1332:
1257:
1154:
1084:
939:
873:
623:"User subpages are for article work, not hosting lots of amusing pictures of genitalia"
528:
510:
429:
387:
369:
360:
1052:
and referred further discussion about these pages to the policy discussion section at
1624:
1538:
1409:
1291:
748:
568:
560:
548:
544:
540:
409:
1623:. Knowledge (XXG) has bigger fish to fry than slightly kooky userpage annexes. —
1127:
785:
709:
626:
572:
491:
461:
163:
132:
56:
1612:
1532:
two weeks hither might dispose that question, but there have been several other
469:
I would be very careful about putting words in my mouth. Where did I say this?
1652:
1437:
1304:
1227:
1207:
985:
718:
669:
639:
582:
532:
470:
439:
141:
111:
85:
1493:
1110:
1016:
956:
700:
hosted in userspace and can (and should) be deleted if not used in articles.
1553:. This is silly. No one's forcing anyone to look at people's userspace. --
368:
These images are on commons, so there's no grounds for us to delete them.
266:
Image:Bayard, Hippolyte 1801-1887 - Selfportrait as a
Drowned man 1840.jpg
604:
Censorship is exactly the purpose Proto has in mind, even if he denies it
1371:
1345:
1266:
1188:
a resource for trolls to find pictures of genitalia to put in templates
853:
772:
108:
Knowledge (XXG) talk:WikiProject Wikipedians against censorship/Gallery
831:, for example, believe to be the function of free speech? Here's what
509:, the sock puppet reference was a JOKE. Sorry for the confusion. —
1253:
1663:
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
1530:
Knowledge (XXG):Miscellany for deletion/User:Cyde/Weird pictures
24:
Knowledge (XXG):Miscellany for deletion/User:Markaci/Nudity (2)
1392:: useful to legitimate editors looking for illustrations, not
404:- pointless, not going to help the encyclopaedia, irrelevant.
201:
Image:1948 photo of dancer Bill Earl by Carl Van Vechten.jpg
1466:
deleted. If you know of an example, please provide it. --
1083:
guideline/policy are too vague on this issue. I note that
310:
Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Wikipedians against censorship
819:
Totally wrong on the last count -- you're confusing the
506:
183:
list at the moment (only part way through the B's)...
938:
deleted, not the page. That's an orthogonal issue. --
106:
Added comment - it's also pretty much a duplicate of
852:
and ridding it of all its meaning. That's childish.
140:Oh, if it's well known, then it must be ok, right?
46:). No further edits should be made to this page.
1639:in accordance with Brian Smithson and Lantoka. --
1434:would have been deleted without a moment's thought
806:-- as Proto points out below, it's a circular con.
884:. This gallery would be fine if the images were
1673:). No further edits should be made to this page.
1140:I can think of two useful purposes for the page:
211:Image:23jahrigeSchwangere kurz vor derGeburt.jpg
246:Image:Anonimo - Studi di nudo - 1870-80 ca..jpg
782:just a collection of links to other WP content
216:Image:59310047 Whore and her guest, in bed.JPG
1181:I can think of more reasons to get rid of it:
8:
1056:. Here is the verdict by the closing admin:
356:Image:Badande kullor av Anders Zorn 1906.jpg
1287:
1094:Knowledge (XXG):Gallery#Userspace_galleries
1071:which I somewhat controversially closed as
1365:I never said it's my concern, I said it's
1292:
1102:And don't you even dare think of touching
331:Image:Amadeo-modigliani le-grand-nu 1.jpg
1194:hosting unused images (and many of them
408:a webhost for porn, among other things.
351:Image:Birth of Venus (Cabanel) large.jpg
256:Image:Auguste Belloc Reclining nude.jpg
18:Knowledge (XXG):Miscellany for deletion
1038:: Nominator has forgotten to add the
829:Founding Fathers of the United States
336:Image:Amazon-variant-sex-position.jpg
231:Image:Agrigente museum ephebe dos.jpg
7:
31:
823:of free speech with its intended
236:Image:Ambrogio Lorenzetti 023.jpg
206:Image:20030520015715!Clitoris.jpg
302:The following images are linked
279:The following images are linked
251:Image:Asian Penis side view.JPG
82:Knowledge (XXG) is not censored
1281:Knowledge (XXG)'s not censored
1059:The result of the debate was
1054:Knowledge (XXG) talk:Galleries
51:The result of the debate was
1:
1656:15:15, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
1644:14:37, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
1632:23:29, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
1616:16:19, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
1604:12:59, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
1579:09:27, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
1558:06:19, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
1542:19:32, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
1516:15:08, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
1483:22:39, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
1471:16:44, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
1453:11:51, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
1375:11:08, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
1361:16:42, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
1349:11:43, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
1336:05:53, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
1320:13:21, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
1299:09:26, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
1270:11:43, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
1261:09:11, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
1243:19:08, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
1223:19:08, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
1174:18:16, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
1131:15:25, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
1029:06:01, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
1009:Don't worry about performance
1004:04:25, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
989:02:30, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
969:06:01, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
949:Don't worry about performance
943:01:20, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
926:00:30, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
857:11:43, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
789:12:58, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
734:19:08, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
713:12:47, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
655:19:08, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
630:12:47, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
612:nothing to do with censorship
606:... gosh, I haven't seen the
495:01:08, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
391:22:30, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
382:13:00, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
364:11:03, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
341:Image:Antoine Watteau 059.jpg
308:from user pages and pages in
221:Image:A. Calavas 16 nudes.jpg
167:12:47, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
60:15:58, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
1265:I think I can support that.
1114:09:15, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
877:19:28, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
776:16:49, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
752:15:02, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
685:16:09, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
598:16:09, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
576:13:36, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
514:21:31, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
486:16:09, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
465:13:36, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
455:11:59, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
433:11:38, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
413:11:23, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
346:Image:Apollo sauroctonus.jpg
261:Image:BandinelliHercules.jpg
157:16:11, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
136:13:36, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
127:12:09, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
101:11:00, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
1690:
1081:webspace usage prohibition
1041:latest deletion nomination
1420:15:00, 11 Dec 2006 (UTC).
1089:Knowledge (XXG):Galleries
241:Image:Andy erotic 012.jpg
1666:Please do not modify it.
422:User:Cyde/Weird pictures
289:Image:ACJCameraWoman.jpg
271:Image:Birth of Venus.jpg
39:Please do not modify it.
1202:on Commons) is against
428:on November 26, 2006. —
226:Image:Abu Ghraib 70.jpg
406:Knowledge (XXG) is not
76:) back in January, as
610:in a while. This is
1611:per Brian Smithson.
426:survived its 2nd MfD
179:The lists below are
1063:, as no consensus.
326:Image:Aktfoto-4.jpg
321:Image:Aktfoto-2.jpg
316:Image:Aktfoto-1.jpg
195:User:Markaci/Nudity
66:User:Markaci/Nudity
505:As I stated in my
1577:
1451:
1422:
1318:
1241:
1221:
1109:
1069:/Work Gallery AfD
1065:Closing comments:
732:
704:useful to select
683:
653:
608:Chewbacca defense
600:
596:
484:
453:
294:Image:Auticia.jpg
285:from user pages:
155:
125:
99:
22:(Redirected from
1681:
1668:
1571:
1569:
1513:
1511:
1506:
1449:
1445:
1440:
1407:
1316:
1312:
1307:
1294:
1289:
1239:
1235:
1230:
1219:
1215:
1210:
1198:unused, and are
1171:
1166:
1162:
1157:
1098:
1047:was closed with
924:
909:
908:
905:
902:
899:
896:
893:
886:used in articles
833:Thomas Jefferson
730:
726:
721:
681:
677:
672:
651:
647:
642:
594:
590:
585:
580:
482:
478:
473:
451:
447:
442:
193:linked from the
153:
149:
144:
123:
119:
114:
97:
93:
88:
41:
27:
1689:
1688:
1684:
1683:
1682:
1680:
1679:
1678:
1677:
1671:deletion review
1664:
1567:
1509:
1504:
1502:
1447:
1438:
1418:
1314:
1305:
1237:
1228:
1217:
1208:
1167:
1164:
1158:
1155:
922:
911:
906:
903:
900:
897:
894:
891:
890:
827:. What did the
804:WP:NOT#WEBSPACE
761:WP:NOT#WEBSPACE
728:
719:
679:
670:
649:
640:
592:
583:
480:
471:
449:
440:
151:
142:
121:
112:
95:
86:
69:
44:deletion review
37:
29:
28:
21:
20:
12:
11:
5:
1687:
1685:
1676:
1675:
1659:
1658:
1646:
1634:
1618:
1606:
1581:
1560:
1547:
1546:
1545:
1544:
1519:
1518:
1498:doesn't matter
1496:. It actually
1487:
1486:
1485:
1473:
1456:
1455:
1414:
1387:
1386:
1385:
1384:
1383:
1382:
1381:
1380:
1379:
1378:
1377:
1340:It's clear to
1323:
1322:
1274:
1273:
1272:
1246:
1245:
1225:
1192:
1189:
1185:
1184:
1183:
1182:
1151:
1150:
1146:
1142:
1141:
1134:
1133:
1126:as well... --
1119:
1118:
1117:
1116:
1033:
1032:
1031:
991:
975:
974:
973:
972:
971:
918:
879:
866:
865:
864:
863:
862:
861:
860:
859:
848:
847:
846:
845:
842:
839:
817:
810:WP:NOT#SOAPBOX
807:
794:
793:
792:
791:
765:WP:NOT#SOAPBOX
754:
742:
741:
740:
739:
738:
737:
736:
701:
694:
688:
687:
664:
663:
662:
661:
660:
659:
658:
657:
633:
632:
616:
615:
553:TheMidnighters
518:
517:
516:
503:
502:
501:
500:
499:
498:
497:
415:
399:
398:
397:
396:
395:
394:
393:
358:
353:
348:
343:
338:
333:
328:
323:
318:
299:
298:
297:
296:
291:
276:
275:
274:
273:
268:
263:
258:
253:
248:
243:
238:
233:
228:
223:
218:
213:
208:
203:
178:
176:
175:
174:
173:
172:
171:
170:
169:
68:
63:
49:
48:
32:
30:
15:
14:
13:
10:
9:
6:
4:
3:
2:
1686:
1674:
1672:
1667:
1661:
1660:
1657:
1654:
1650:
1647:
1645:
1642:
1638:
1635:
1633:
1630:
1626:
1622:
1619:
1617:
1614:
1610:
1607:
1605:
1601:
1597:
1593:
1589:
1585:
1582:
1580:
1575:
1570:
1564:
1561:
1559:
1556:
1555:BrianSmithson
1552:
1549:
1548:
1543:
1540:
1535:
1531:
1526:
1523:
1522:
1521:
1520:
1517:
1514:
1512:
1507:
1499:
1495:
1491:
1488:
1484:
1481:
1480:BrianSmithson
1477:
1474:
1472:
1469:
1465:
1464:in user space
1461:
1458:
1457:
1454:
1450:
1444:
1441:
1435:
1431:
1427:
1424:
1423:
1421:
1417:
1413:
1412:
1405:
1400:
1395:
1391:
1388:
1376:
1373:
1368:
1364:
1363:
1362:
1359:
1355:
1352:
1351:
1350:
1347:
1343:
1339:
1338:
1337:
1334:
1330:
1327:
1326:
1325:
1324:
1321:
1317:
1311:
1308:
1302:
1301:
1300:
1297:
1295:
1290:
1282:
1278:
1275:
1271:
1268:
1264:
1263:
1262:
1259:
1255:
1251:
1248:
1247:
1244:
1240:
1234:
1231:
1226:
1224:
1220:
1214:
1211:
1205:
1201:
1197:
1193:
1190:
1187:
1186:
1180:
1179:
1178:
1177:
1176:
1175:
1172:
1170:
1161:
1147:
1144:
1143:
1139:
1136:
1135:
1132:
1129:
1125:
1121:
1120:
1115:
1112:
1108:
1106:
1101:
1096:
1095:
1090:
1086:
1082:
1078:
1074:
1070:
1066:
1062:
1058:
1057:
1055:
1051:
1050:
1044:
1042:
1037:
1034:
1030:
1026:
1022:
1018:
1014:
1010:
1007:
1006:
1005:
1002:
999:
995:
992:
990:
987:
983:
979:
976:
970:
966:
962:
958:
954:
950:
946:
945:
944:
941:
937:
932:
929:
928:
927:
923:
921:
916:
913:
910:
887:
883:
882:Strong delete
880:
878:
875:
871:
868:
867:
858:
855:
850:
849:
843:
840:
837:
836:
834:
830:
826:
822:
818:
815:
811:
808:
805:
802:
801:
800:
799:
798:
797:
796:
795:
790:
787:
783:
779:
778:
777:
774:
770:
766:
762:
758:
755:
753:
750:
746:
743:
735:
731:
725:
722:
716:
715:
714:
711:
707:
702:
699:
696:Pictures are
695:
692:
691:
690:
689:
686:
682:
676:
673:
666:
665:
656:
652:
646:
643:
637:
636:
635:
634:
631:
628:
624:
620:
619:
618:
617:
613:
609:
605:
602:
601:
599:
595:
589:
586:
579:
578:
577:
574:
570:
566:
562:
558:
554:
550:
546:
542:
538:
534:
530:
526:
522:
519:
515:
512:
508:
504:
496:
493:
489:
488:
487:
483:
477:
474:
468:
467:
466:
463:
458:
457:
456:
452:
446:
443:
436:
435:
434:
431:
427:
423:
419:
416:
414:
411:
407:
403:
400:
392:
389:
385:
384:
383:
379:
375:
371:
367:
366:
365:
362:
357:
354:
352:
349:
347:
344:
342:
339:
337:
334:
332:
329:
327:
324:
322:
319:
317:
314:
313:
311:
307:
306:
301:
300:
295:
292:
290:
287:
286:
284:
283:
278:
277:
272:
269:
267:
264:
262:
259:
257:
254:
252:
249:
247:
244:
242:
239:
237:
234:
232:
229:
227:
224:
222:
219:
217:
214:
212:
209:
207:
204:
202:
199:
198:
196:
192:
191:
186:
185:
184:
182:
168:
165:
160:
159:
158:
154:
148:
145:
139:
138:
137:
134:
130:
129:
128:
124:
118:
115:
109:
105:
104:
103:
102:
98:
92:
89:
83:
79:
75:
67:
64:
62:
61:
58:
54:
47:
45:
40:
34:
33:
25:
19:
1665:
1662:
1651:as per nom.
1648:
1636:
1620:
1608:
1587:
1583:
1562:
1550:
1524:
1501:
1497:
1489:
1475:
1463:
1459:
1442:
1433:
1429:
1425:
1419:
1410:
1403:
1398:
1393:
1389:
1366:
1353:
1341:
1328:
1309:
1284:
1276:
1249:
1232:
1212:
1199:
1195:
1168:
1159:
1152:
1137:
1103:
1099:
1092:
1087:had created
1072:
1064:
1060:
1049:No consensus
1048:
1046:
1039:
1035:
993:
977:
935:
930:
919:
914:
885:
881:
869:
824:
820:
781:
759:-- violates
756:
744:
723:
705:
697:
674:
644:
622:
611:
603:
587:
524:
520:
507:edit comment
475:
444:
417:
401:
304:
303:
281:
280:
189:
188:
180:
177:
146:
116:
90:
78:no consensus
77:
70:
53:no consensus
52:
50:
38:
35:
1505:Michaelas10
1043:7 weeks ago
1019:developer (
959:developer (
537:Ibaranoff24
1588:on commons
1124:of pussies
1105:User:Kitty
1013:Simetrical
953:Simetrical
565:Descendall
527:then were
1609:Weak Keep
1592:Night Gyr
1468:Trovatore
1428:- that's
1358:Trovatore
1333:Trovatore
1258:Ned Scott
1097:section.
1085:John Reid
1077:userspace
1017:MediaWiki
957:MediaWiki
940:Trovatore
874:Trovatore
557:Hansnesse
529:Trovatore
511:Doug Bell
430:Doug Bell
388:Doug Bell
370:Night Gyr
361:Doug Bell
1625:Rickyrab
1416:contribs
1411:SAJordan
1293:Netscott
1279:, folks
1025:contribs
965:contribs
920:contribs
825:function
814:WP:POINT
769:WP:POINT
749:James086
569:JanSuchy
561:Vizcarra
549:Thparkth
545:Chris_73
541:Janizary
410:Moreschi
1568:Lantoka
1525:Comment
1476:Comment
1460:Comment
1430:exactly
1404:(other)
1354:Comment
1329:Comment
1149:corner.
1128:Marcika
1036:Comment
931:Comment
821:process
786:Marcika
745:Neutral
710:Marcika
627:Marcika
573:Marcika
492:Marcika
462:Marcika
181:partial
164:Marcika
133:Marcika
57:A Train
1649:Delete
1613:Just H
1510:(Talk)
1204:WP:NOT
1073:delete
1045:which
994:Delete
982:WP:IFD
978:Delete
936:images
835:said:
757:Delete
424:which
418:Delete
402:Delete
197:page:
1653:Dwain
1439:Proto
1399:links
1306:Proto
1254:Penis
1229:Proto
1209:Proto
986:MER-C
720:Proto
706:which
671:Proto
641:Proto
584:Proto
533:Drini
472:Proto
441:Proto
143:Proto
113:Proto
87:Proto
16:<
1641:Afed
1637:Keep
1629:Talk
1621:Keep
1596:talk
1584:Keep
1574:talk
1563:Keep
1551:Keep
1534:MfDs
1494:Cyde
1490:Keep
1394:just
1390:Keep
1367:your
1277:Keep
1250:Keep
1138:Keep
1111:El_C
1100:P.S.
1079:and
1061:keep
1021:talk
961:talk
870:Keep
812:and
767:and
525:Keep
521:Keep
374:talk
305:only
282:only
190:only
74:here
1539:Joe
1200:not
1196:are
1165:Dan
1156:Dan
1011:. —
998:Jpe
951:. —
698:not
551::,
1627:|
1602:)
1600:Oy
1443:::
1408:–
1372:Bi
1346:Bi
1342:me
1310:::
1283:.
1267:Bi
1233:::
1213:::
1107:!!
1027:)
1023:•
1015:,
1001:ob
984:.
967:)
963:•
955:,
904:ar
901:ik
898:Sh
895:rk
892:Da
854:Bi
773:Bi
763:,
724:::
675:::
645:::
588:::
567:,
563:,
559:,
555:,
547:,
543:,
539:,
535:,
531:,
476:::
445:::
380:)
378:Oy
312::
147:::
117:::
91:::
55:.
1598:/
1594:(
1576:)
1572:(
1448:►
1315:►
1296:)
1288:→
1285:(
1238:►
1218:►
1169:D
1163:†
1160:B
915:/
907:i
729:►
680:►
650:►
593:►
481:►
450:►
376:/
372:(
359:—
152:►
122:►
96:►
26:)
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.