Knowledge (XXG):Miscellany for deletion/User:GabrielF/ConspiracyNoticeboard (2nd mfd)

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going all the way delete obviously and I can vote keep and still have it deleted, I surely do, that way it covers the tracks, cant say I always vote with Morton cause I can show you times I didn't. I have grown tired of playing this game however and can tell you I have communicated with many of the people off wiki to organize situations. The best part of all this is that Knowledge (XXG) allows it since accusations get met with WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL when you get tired of the conspiracy comments and lash out. Unfortunatly lately MONGO was dethroned. We still had Tom, but he is a lazy admin to have in your pocket and only really steps in after MONGO was shut down. Tom isnt as pushing in his view hence he is great to have in the pocket. Anyway I honestly believe in limits on what gets put on Knowledge (XXG), but many borderline articles didnt stand a chance due to the voting in tandem. If people really think a group of like minded editors giving each other the heads up over articles in not bad, then who are we not to exploit it and use it to our advantage. Some of the paranoid really are paranoid, don't get me wrong, like cplot accusing people of being child eating feds, that was humerous. Anyway without fixing the system that allows this you really have no ability to stop it. Its vote stacking at its best, I dont have to post on your page, cause I can post in a central location. Anyway as Edward R Murrow so frequently said. Good night and good luck. --

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big conspiracy theory as the article attempted at one point to say the US knew the document was forged and used it instead as a piece of known false evidence to goto war, thats actually pretty much the def of a conspiracy, plotting using false evidence to by multiple people to lie. The article on Allegations of state terrorism by the US surely has plenty to do with CT as one of section was about Operation Gladio a pretty large conspiracy theory to implant troops into countries incase of a USSR take over, that part turned out to be true but the article then went on to further claim the US implanted them to commit terrorism. etc. the other countries were listed as being part of the same AfD, it was a bulk AfD, you voted on it so I am sure you were aware. Again Andy Stephenson claimed the US rigged the election by using machines with predetermined results, even his death is part of a CT about withholding money to prevent his surgery causing him to die. Jill Pike was properly removed, the Seabhcan and Mongo issue was beyond the scope but relevant to everyone there as almost everyone was aware of Mongo and Seabhcan including Travb. Oddly enough 2 of the examples actually contain people saying they are not 9/11 CT but other CT, the title is Conspiracy Noticeboard, not 9/11 Conspiracy Noticeboard, please read more carefully in the future. Thank you. Also letter beacon is about a conspiracy of what the beacons are for, if its secret transmissions etc. --

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any good to go around overtly soliciting support for various suspect editorial manouevres, but I very much feel that the only reason the person nominating this page for deletion did so in the first place is because it exemplifies a point of view contrary to his own, not out of some martyrlike devotion to utter disinterest and neutrality. Keeping the page in userspace helps to reinforce the idea that it is a personal side-project and not in any way official. And, allow me to be perfectly frank. There is, from what I have seen and experienced, a verbal war here on Knowledge (XXG) between two groups of people: one which thinks that the 9/11 attacks played out as the U.S. and U.K. governments say they did, and another one which doesn't. While certainly articles should be neutral, etc., anyone coming across GabrielF's page will probably already have made up their mind as to which side of the fence they occupy, and consequently which `voting-block' they will support. There are very few people who can honestly claim to be 100% neutral on the matter as far as their personal leanings go, and if such a person

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cplot, so I am really surprised as of late. As for vote stacking your example makes no sense, there is no votestacking possibility in an ArbCom hearing, people do not vote on the issue. Its also reccomended that as many people as possible input on the ArbCom hearings. So you cannot vote stacking in an ArbCom. You should be aware of that as well as you participated in the MONGO/Seabhcan arbcom hearing. As for people making remarks that shouldnt be there, they should be removed. If I made a remark that I shouldnt have on your talk page, should we delete the talk page? of course not, that doesnt make any sense. So again, the noticeboard, per the clearly labeled title, is regarding conspiracy theories, not 9/11 conspiracy theories, glad I could clear that up for you and put an end to your confusion. --

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appears on the noticeboard. It seems improper to suggest how to vote, or to suggest a reason for deleting, but a listing of AfDs for any defined subject, topic, or category seems like nothing more than an extension of the official categorization of AfDs like "Biographical," "Games and sports," or ""Science and technology." Thus one could maintain a list of articles nominated for deletion relevant to a political issue, a college, a science, a religion, a country, etc. Instead of giving a reason for deletion on the noticeboard, the creator of the list could just state his reasons with his delete vote on the AfD and like-minded people could vote "Delete per Morton" (or whomever).

3374:, the discussion that underlies those articles should be about the free and open exchange of ideas, and deleting this page would be contrary to that principle. However, it's important to note that the existence of this page casts doubt on the validity of votes in favor of deletion in any AfD it mentions, since pages like this give the taint of meatpuppetry to everything it touches. Folks who are concerned about the potential for such meatpuppetry should remember to mention it in AfD discussions that are listed on this page so that administrators can be aware of it. -- 1696:

discussions and not as AfD's is a pretty good testament to the legitamacy of the noticeboard. We went through this on the last AfD and it seems noone is making a new arguement, and the concensus seems to be much in the same direction. Considering Striver admitted to attacking this noticeboard in an attempt to lash out after his noticeboard was deleted for breaking rules is prolly a major factor. And you did not defend any of your major points listed, so in reality only two items of your above list may be valid and those are 2 of over 40, good job. --

3151:- And the owner of the page should be blocked from wikipedia for at least a year. I see this page as an attack upon the neutrality and completeness of the encyclopedia as a whole. And as evidenced by the pages it proudly claims "kill credit" for, it has done significant damage to this project that we all pour our time and energy into. This must be seen as a cynical and inappropriate vandalism of wikipedia, and a hostile attack upon its very principles. NO COMPROMISE - this page must go and its owner must be banned from the project. -- 836:

is expected to evaluate for themselves whether Conspiracy Joe is right or not. But the average reader cannot evaluate claims of that complexity: it took me a couple of hours research in organic chemistry to debunk, for personal benefit, the claims about the various residues left behind by what Conspiracy Joe claims was thermate wrapped in some sort of sol-gel. Unless one is a chemist, that kind of knowledge doesn't just lie around in the top of one's head the same way that how to make a good curry does.

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issue, NPOV is not a basis for deletion unless the article has no possible way to be neutral, and WP:NOT is always useful. Missles hitting the WTC or particle beams is pretty much something made up in school, but controlled demolition and inquiries made into government involvement, go slightly further then simply "The Death Star blew up the WTC." So its always a fine line we have to walk to make sure we are not removing people/books/articles that do belong. --

1648:"Do not make personal attacks anywhere in Knowledge (XXG). Comment on content, not on the contributor. Personal attacks will not help you make a point; they hurt the Knowledge (XXG) community and deter users from helping create a good encyclopedia." Fair attempted to add a off topic article to this list. He was probably confused by the diverse topics on this "ConspiracyNoticeboard", many of which have nothing at all to do with conspiracy. 3036:

it seems, you are one of the paranoid it seems to stare at the "we" so deeply. I think some of the people who frequent this noticeboard have begun to just make a joke out of the accusation, how can you not? I mean people who visit this noticeboard have been accused of being secret service agents that kill babies on that spare time, that was from cplot who Travb defended oddly enough. --

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well as FAAFA's which you seem to defend his admitted WP:POINT violation as well, even after he apologized and admitted it was WP:POINT. And again oddly you attack Morton for "spamming" when you have already admitted to doing it here, again, please do not break Knowledge (XXG) policy in an attempt to make a point political or otherwise. Thank you. --

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editor. I contributed content that I didn't agree with, in an effort to increase enclycolpaedic knowledge! I don't believe in Santa Claus either, but wouldn't want to see his article deleted. What's important is to note that you and your cohorts only object to conspiracy theories that meet a certain narrow politically motivated criteria. -

2341:. Now, let me kindly answer without malice your question which answer(s) you so crave. What is the difference between what you did on these talk pages and the forementioned noticeboard? Assuming that when you say "talk pages" you mean this MfD (I didn't quite get your statement, sorry), and assuming your analysis of the board is "correct", 280: 225: 3879:

agree we should not be filling the encyclopedia with things made up in school on Friday, removing information related to the vast section of conspiracies based on 9/11 is not the same thing. There is obviously a phenomenon associated with 9/11, maybe purely psychological, but clearly present and should be documented in some form. --

2001:(Latin for "And you too!"), which asserts that the advice or argument must be false simply because the person presenting the advice doesn't follow it herself. For instance, "Reverend Jeremias claims that theft is wrong, but how can theft be wrong if Jeremias himself admits he stole objects when he was a child?" 2472:, thus young earth science is a 'conspiracy theory', and (according to Fred Bauer's Admin ruling on the 9/11 CT's) anyone who publically contends that the earth is 1000's of years old, be that person a preacher or a creation 'scientist', politician or scholar, must be considered a 'conspiracy thorist' and 735:

delete a page in user space. If a user was violating the policy, they would have to show a history of unwillingness to fix and comply with it before I would vote for deletion. If a user were to feel uncomfortable with a noticeboard, they could always make their own similar board in their own userspace.

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I agree with TBeatty's sentiments: an encyclopedia full of tinfoil hat bollocks isn't an encyclopedia at all. Uncyclopedia and Encyclopedia Dramatica are over thataway, for those who want to write crap, and Wikitruth apparently take all the nonsense we get rid of. However, I don't think that that has

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Ok look this is all fun to make people look like fools for arguing with us and maknig them look paranoid to insist that their is a cabal in hiding. The truth is we are all aware of eachothers views and have voted against what we believe just to make it seem like we do not vote in tandem. If a vote is

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The "we" is for the illuminati, black helicopter, secret service agents, this board seems to represent to the conspiracy folk who want to add cruft, not legit well founded and researched conspiracies, but instead the latest thing they though up of on friday night. The "we" is a joke for the paranoid,

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Please note this user had an article they created deleted on 9/11 conspiracy theories. The article stated that US war ships launched cruise missles with advanced holographic systems disguising the missles as jets, and no planes were actually flown into the twin towers. These are the types of articles

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Per TravB. The page is advocacy and violates Knowledge (XXG):Straw_polls#Survey_etiquette and WP:SPAM#If_you_canvass. I must also address the coordinated campaign of deletions of 9/11 CT related articles and harassment of editors who believe in alternate 9/11 theories. The US Government unequivocally

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Ask yourself, how does this userpage help in the vision of wikipedia?: "Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge. That's what we're doing." -Jimmy Wales, July 2004. Deleting well researched articles does not further the goals of

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Wasn't FAAFA blocked for disruption from that? from adding knowingly and later admittingly bad AfD's to the noticeboard? You do realize that FAAFA was adding a sexual act to the noticeboard, oddly this is something you would have listed above as it has nothing to do with conspiracy theories ... Good

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Againt please read the title, it doesnt matter what it started out as, what it does contain and what its named is what matters. Since its reagrding conspiracy theories, your points above are moot. I am also surprised below you attempt to defend an act of vandalism, then again you attempted to defend

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Now, one could say that it ought to be possible to cite the research of someone who has gone out and debunked these claims already, preferably a reputable professional. Only, where Conspiracy Joe devotes his entire life to coming up with his ideas, reputable professionals, being professionals, have

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without this page being here. Even this nomination here inspired me to dig through the policy and find that my own user page is violating the guidelines (I thought a fair-use image would be ok, but it is apparently not, I'll replace it with a public domain image soon). I would almost never vote to

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The section linked shows your anger at your Muslim Guild noticeboard being deleted for violating the rules, right after you appeared on this notice board to try to get it deleted. I guess you finally figured out how since we are now discussing this again after a snowball keep earlier. The worst part

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Thank you for clarifying, the statement "basic fictitious rants with biased individuals controlling the pen", doesn't seem to elude to any policy basis, just personal opinion on a topic it sounded like you were familiar with. I agree that if an article cannot generate WP:RS sources then there is an

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Completely acceptable, however in many cases what they made up exists, but who made it up does not, something is wrong there. You believe the "what they made up" still being here is the problem, some believe its the "who made it up" not being there. Obviously a conflict exists. As for cabal stuff I

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So the articles based on people that have been deleted through that page are of non-existent people? Obviously not so what you are reffering to is really based on certain theories, not people, books or movies, which make up quite a larger portion of the AfD's on the page then anything else. While I

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other than commerical planes (flown by hijackers) hit the WTC, and I don't believe that the buildings were imploded, exploded, or even 'death rayed'! I felt those theories were so outrageous that they were notable and that they should be documented for historical purposes. That shows my value as an

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So please, try assuming that we are all here to help Knowledge (XXG). We are not here to caricature anyone; there is no anti-Travb or pro-board cabal. I made a simple observation, and urge that you mend your ways so that you may dissuade me from my current opinion, and instead I get a response that

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Doesn't say its for 9/11 conspiracy theories. The example above doesnt show TBeatty saying its not conspiracy theory based at all, just that its not 9/11 CT (conspiracy theory) based, but is Election CT based. Pathological skepticism is surely related to Conspiray theories. Yellowcake forgery was a

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The idea seems to be that simply by laying out the facts, the reader can make up their own mind about things. So, presented with an article that says `Conspiracy Joe says x, y and z, and cites these chemical formulae and those equations of civil engineering to support his claim', the casual reader

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to encounter GabrielF's comments on his list, it is doubtful indeed that they would be swayed by them, since the immense effort it would take to maintain neutrality through the screeds of polemics and vociferous argumentation we see on talk pages is hardly likely to be broken down by a comment like

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create any biads, and nor do I think it does any harm if someone tracks deletion events pertaining to articles in a particular `genre', or expresses their opinion (which is quite justified, by any reasonable standards) of the content of the articles in question. I can understand that it doesn't do

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That is an obvious rhetorical question. And even since i voiced that i do not aprove of the methods of this "noticeboard", it has still continued to write things like "token jews". They show no sign of trying to clean up their act, rather, they give different excuses to keep going as everything was

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It is inappropriate to see "one of the token Jews" before even seeing the afd and if a researcher is truly non-notable, then surely people can figure it out on themselves without small "introductions". The whole concept of this is flawed, both the the "tip" on how to vote that has been misused per

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You'd like to think that, wouldn't you! You've beaten my giant, which means you're exceptionally strong. So you could have put the poison into your own goblet, trusting on your strength to save you, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But, you've also bested my Spaniard, which

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Yes violating policy by vote stacking because you feel something else is vote stacking is not WP:POINT ... sure ... Have a merry christmas Travb, its clear the concensus is against this again, as many people are aware of policy and the nature of your interaction with members of this noticeboard as

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Well, they don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of getting removed — as you so rightly point out below, people who espouse those theories aren't averse to indulging in campaigns of disinformation themselves, and like the conspiracy theorists, use Knowledge (XXG) as a platform for advocacy. But

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Who published it and how many copies did it sell, was it marked as fiction by your publisher or the companies that carry it, did you recieve any press attention for making such a claim, if so by who, how much? Seems "common sense" in this example is just the ignoring of details and their relevant

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Now let me diverge from your direct insult at me and NuclearUmpf and assess your finding of "consensus" as "the same group of people who contribute to this attack page." Assuming that you mean the alleged "consensus" on this MfD, note that I have never referred or even touched said noticeboard. I

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Not to turn up the heat, but Travb has unfortunately turned his case into a situation of the pot calling the kettle black, with his advertising of his "fight against votestacking" (backed by dubiously worded wikilawyering) and his own attempt to unduly influence this MfD with his somewhat flaming

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Morton, I would be happy to see an anti-conspiracist WikiProject, with defined aims. The basic idea behind this page doesn't worry me - there's ample conspiracycruft needs deleting, merging, and cleaning up. What concerns me are the scope creepy aspects. If there was an assurance that this would

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of Joe's claims for fun, and stick on the InterNet, or send it to Popular Mechanics, or whatever. But by that time, Joe has published 10 more essays, written a dubious book and been interviewed about it, twice, on a dodgy radio chat show, and delivered 6 speeches at 4 conferences — all of which

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I removed it because the last thing he added, which oddly you defend was a sexual act involving gay people, something he admitted to being in vioaltion of policy and was blocked for. Again, your defense of acts even the people who commited them admitted was were wrong is pretty odd and outright

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The goal of providing the totality of knowledge for all is a noble one. However, we must ask ourselves whether theories that clandestine agents destroyed the WTC by planting thermite, or zapping it with a space-beam, and so forth, represent `knowledge'. It may be `knowledge', in a sense, that

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A listing of deletion nominations relevant to a given topic could be watchlisted by those in favor of such articles as well as those opposed to such articles. The downside is that it can act as vote solicitation, demonstrated when the same names appear en mass to cast Delete votes soon after it

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an important myth, it's been part of Western culture for millenia, unlike conspiracy theories which are not yet a decade old), and `intelligent design' should be stripped of all its pretensions to being science — for the best knowledge we have today tells us it's bunk. Although, I must say, I

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Travb: Do you honestly believe that I have so much influence on people that they'll vote my way on an AfD because I write a sentence fragment about it on a user page? I think that most wikipedians are smart enough to make up their own minds about how to vote on an AfD regardless of whether I

2451:, which I apparently approved (I don't recall it and there are no diffs), merely provides a list, whereas this page is polemic in nature, and puts forward opinions that should be properly on the AfD page in question. I suggest it is cleaned up so it acts as an aide-memoire, not as advocacy. 1695:

I see you did not read my reply, I already adressed the issue of the ArbCom and the straw poll, two items out of the pages 40+ just go to show that its normally on point and in the rules. The fact that all the AfD's are visible and those are the only items you found, items listed as related

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and the arguments themselves as 'Conspiracy Theories'. Following Mr. Bauer's ruling - all content from any person who believes the earth is 1000's of years old must be considered unreliable, and exclusionable from Wiki. Does this sound absurd? Perhaps, but 'young earth' theories are

4224:, "You can use your user page to help you to use Knowledge (XXG) more effectively: to list "to do" information, works in progress, reminders, useful links, and so forth." ... "and your (constructive) opinions on how certain Knowledge (XXG) articles or policies should be changed." -- 3677:

As much as I agree that factions on Knowledge (XXG) need to end. I do not agree that the deletion of that page would have been wrong, it just depends on your perspective and opinion on if various "allegations" on various topics, by various people, is enough to warrant an article.

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Edison, I appreciate your comments, and I really see where you are coming from. The problem is this is a user page, and this user has historically shown a preference for certain articles being deleted over certain other articles. (See my "Strong Delete" below for

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to portrary the `knowledge' of these loonies as being on the same level as the `knowledge' of the comprehensive team of experts built up by NIST. Lest this starts sounding like a treatise on postmodern epistemology (and maybe it is, for Knowledge (XXG) is an

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researched, certainly, but information is only as good as the source from which it issues — and unfortunately, 911truth.com is one of those sources where you can cite 200 times, but it still doesn't make it reliable or right. Which brings me to my second

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Consensus can change. Explain to me why a userspace "noticeboard" is more appropriate than a project? If projects get deleted, why is the userspace version allowed? What makes them more merited for inclusion? And why don't you create a neutral one, like

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You may not be aware that oftentimes, when people try to create similar Wikiprojects, that they don't last very long at the chopping board. The one you mention above is but one example, but Striver's own Wikiproject Islam creations would also serve.

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have to do with Conspiracy theories? You stated "Againt please read the title, it doesnt matter what it started out as". What does a Request for Arbitration and a straw poll about Reliable sources have to do with Conspiracy theories? Best wishes,

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So, to answer your question, Travb, I would say this. This userpage helps fulfil the mission of Knowledge (XXG) by providing GabrielF, and a few acquaintances, a way of co-ordinating their activities in trying to keep Knowledge (XXG) focused on

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Just to clarify, Tom didnt do as we said, you just knew Tom was watching Morton and TBeatty and if you stood by them you were under the umbrella ... or closely watched by Tom or MONGO. In pocket doesnt mean in ownership or doing bidding of.

1104:), these things are not allowed in Wikispace. When they're in userspace, they're just one user's opinion, not policy, so that seems to be okay. The precedents are cited above. BTW, if we don't interract in the mean time, Happy Holidays! 4183:

them, or bring them to AFD. There's no need for a noticeboard, let alone one in userspace. Some of the pro-deletion comments here are frivolous, book burning indeed, but there are reasonable grounds for thinking that this is inappropriate.

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I don't really have the time or the energy to defend this page at the moment. Those interested in my opinions can read my thoughts on the last MfD. I sincerely thank the many editors who have stood up for myself and my user page.

2345:. Your desperate rhetoric, rampant wikilawyering, subtle self-glorification, and constant hounding and demonizing of Morton Devonshire at the slightest provocation and at the most unrelated situation match exactly the statements 2013:

Your own statment shows that this userpage is inappropriate: "I would like to point out that Travb has now gone out attempting to vote stack by putting this AfD on the talk page of articles that it has listed" isn't this the

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made up in school one day, they shouldn't have an article. What they made up also exists, but may not deserve an article unless separately notable. (You may note that, although I've been accused of being part of the

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This isnt a reminder list, its titled noticeboard, hence its for others to read. So its not a simple case of self reminders. Though I think it should be kept, it doesnt seem like you have looked at the board much.

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In an effort to maintain my optimistic Christmas cheer, I shall cordially disregard the insulting and arrogant tone in your reply. Interestingly, you seem to be in sore need of your own favorite medicine, namely,

576:. Not sure how many people have to state it, but noticeboards are permitted and this one has been shown to have a largely diverse group in the last MfD, showing its not being used for vote stacking or anything. -- 4016:

The thing is, I don’t necessarily have to read the book or see the movie. I can simply read the basic summary created of that subject when it is presented here in Knowledge (XXG) that others write. I can look at

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that the clandestine agents did it, but that isn't the impression the articles convey. Indeed, if we were to extend that humanitarian goal of Wales a little, I would say we arrive at the realisation that it is

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Good job to admitting to violating WP:POINT. I think that tells everyone how serious to take your arguements. Please adhere to WP policy and do not violate them to prove some sort of political or other point.

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You can see by Striver's noticeboards examples that the Wiki seems to disfavor such a move, as it places too much of the Wiki official mantle on the content. That result is that with the rare exception (e.g.

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means you must have studied. And in studying, you must have learned that Man is mortal so you would have put the poison as far from yourself as possible, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me!

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have refrained from touching the sensitive political football called "9/11 conspiracy theories since the end of August. In short, your general deriding of supporters of this "attack page" is blatantly false.

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of being well-researched, but aren't, since the citations are inevitably to the ignorant ruminations of paranoids and cranks. It may not be `politically-correct' to say that directly, but it is the truth.

1954:, which I believe is against vote stacking rules, they are also oddly marked as minor edits, which creating new section and entire messages are not minor edits. Have to say I am surely disappointed Travb.-- 4072:

To answer your lingering question, I think common sense applies here. If I write a fictitious rant about President Kennedy being a communist and get it published, can I have an article in Knowledge (XXG)?

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You readily admit yourself that when userpages have "wikipedia" in front of them they are not acceptable, and that is the only difference between this user page and the other two pages which were deleted.

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anything but an "attempt to sway consensus by encouraging participation in a discussion by people that you already know have a certain point of view" with "language that may suggest bias" Best wishes,

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The short answer is that "Projects" are Wiki projects, and therefore take on some sort of official mantle. Userpages are just userpages, and carry no community policy weight, just one user's opinion.

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to blow off steam without the constraints of wikipedia, let me know, I won't even mind if you message me on my talk page to accept my invitation, or start messaging me on my talk page again. If we do

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have been found to be acceptable by Admin Tyrenius and others whenever they've been considered, and allowing them has been the norm. We have an uninvolved admin on-record as saying it's okay (see

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Its good to see we agree. However you never adressed my point of the noticeboard covering more books movies and people then ideas which you stated in your original post. Your exact words were

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Well, I am glad that we both agree that Morton and Nuclear's argument is fallacious. I have struck my comment, and I would ask you to join me in asking Morton and Nuclear to strike theirs.

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None of the items Striver lists for why it should be deleted are valid reasons. Couple that with the fact that this page tracks particularly-themed XfD debates, thereby being proper use of

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Hello Jersey Devil, welcome, I was wondering when you would come join the party with your fellow wikipedians. Your statment I am afraid, does not hold up to the factual history of the page.

113: 3695:, I think you summed it all up: "it just depends on your perspective and opinion on if various "allegations" on various topics, by various people, is enough to warrant an article." 3366:. Anyway, even though I'm not the arbiter of Knowledge (XXG) policy by any means, I can't see a good reason to delete this page. While articles themselves are about things like 2926:"..."Projects" are Wiki projects, and therefore take on some sort of official mantle. Userpages are just userpages, and carry no community policy weight, just one user's opinion." 353:"..."Projects" are Wiki projects, and therefore take on some sort of official mantle. Userpages are just userpages, and carry no community policy weight, just one user's opinion." 390:

Morton, your evidence in support of this page is two editors being asked if these pages are okay in a non-formal setting. This is the entire weight of your "community precedent".

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The majority of the subjects that were listed on the board were just basic fictitious rants with biased individuals controlling the pen. As someone pointed out a while back:

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Yes since he is the one who said all of those things and the "we", you probably should ask him as he can answer best. Again, its probably also best done on his talk page. --

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Creating an article on cruft then being upset your articles was deleted. That was the point. One person saying cruise missles does not meet our requirements for articles. --

3944:, I've !voted against the probable intent of GabrielF from time to time. "Keep, unfortunately" is a fairly common !vote for me on the AfDs mentioned in this article.) — 3606: 2907: 1469: 1101: 809:

Hmm, I do see your point, Travb. But I disagree with you on two counts. The first, is that from what I have seen, many of these 9/11 articles are not well-researched.

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Rosenkreuz, I am not one of those people who believes in 9/11 conspiracies, but I am deeply troubled that a group of wikipedians are deleting well research wikiarticles.

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are those who "Hid(e) behind misinterpretations or technicalities of policy to justify inappropriate actions." Actually, neither yourself or NuclearUmpf have addressed

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The object is to present the sum of all human knowledge, not create an encyclopedia that school children will have to unlearn because it's filled with false garbage.

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I agree partially and Travb has been kind enough to make sure that happens. I have even started to post when I find AfD's from other peoples contribution history. --

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Noone promised to move, it someone asked, and another said they may if everyone agreed, no agreement was reached. It was also not a promise required for the keep. --

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Note the link provided is discussing "Allegations of State Terrorism by the United States" AfD, not an MfD at all, or for that matter this noticeboards last MfD. --

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User:NuclearUmpf, so would you agree that posting messages on a userpage or talk page to attempt to influence a AfD is against wikipolicy? Simple yes or no answer.

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can't have it both ways, it is either a wikiproject, which should have "some sort of official mantle" or it is a userpage which "carry no community policy weight".

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userspace that isn't stating a position (i.e., it is not saying "delete these articles" but rather listing them) and is not preventing others from listing afds.--

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I probably would have voted keep there as well. Sometimes precedent was made inappropriately around here, it seems to happen through flash mobs very frequently.

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to advertise Knowledge (XXG) articles that are being debated in order to attract users with known views and bias, in order to strengthen one side of a debate."

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Wikipedia_talk:Requests for_arbitration/Seabhcan/Proposed_decision#Straw_poll on_decision_to_desysop Straw poll on whether to desysop Admins MONGO and Seabhcan

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Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Seabhcan/Proposed_decision#Straw_poll_on_decision_to_desysop Straw poll on whether to desysop Admins MONGO and Seabhcan

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Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Seabhcan/Proposed_decision#Straw_poll_on_decision_to_desysop Straw poll on whether to desysop Admins MONGO and Seabhcan

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Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Seabhcan/Proposed_decision#Straw_poll_on_decision_to_desysop Straw poll on whether to desysop Admins MONGO and Seabhcan

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Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Seabhcan/Proposed_decision#Straw_poll_on_decision_to_desysop Straw poll on whether to desysop Admins MONGO and Seabhcan

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to advertise Knowledge (XXG) articles that are being debated in order to attract users with known views and bias, in order to strengthen one side of a debate."

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use to condemn said noticeboard. While I respect your opinion, as you are surely entitled to it, I do not respect the tactics you use to present your opinion.

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You forgot to mention that the article that NBGPWS aka F.A.A.F.A was trying to add to the ConspiracyNoticeboard was about butt-fucking. Small thing that.

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The page in question is not a wikiproject however, so that point is moot. Also they are talking about politically diversive groups acting in tandem. --

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The confusing thing is, when a wikiuser brought up a wikipage being deleted, for the same reasons I bring up for why this userpage should be deleted,

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This has nothing to do with this AfD, and is simply a tactic to change the subject. FYI, cplot's advocate is considering a Arbcom regarding this case.

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I would like to point out that Travb has now gone out attempting to vote stack by putting this AfD on the talk page of articles that it has listed

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And for a second time: What does "This is one of the most important guidelines on Knowledge (XXG), and it deserves to be promoted to FULL POLICY."

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Joe's supporters demand merit Knowledge (XXG) articles, and which generate vast chunks of material, which the sane people can never catch up with.

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Since none of the contributors to this userpage want to answer the questions, I will post them here, for the Knowledge (XXG) community to decide:

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Could this statment point to the conclusion, argued here, that a small group of likeminded editors are using this edit board to influence AfDs?

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Nuclear as you know, this article started as 9/11 conspiracy cruft, so your argument that it is not about 9/11 conspiracy theories is dubious.

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This userpage started out as a 9/11 conspiracy page and has grown to include anything this small group of users feel is a "conspiracy theory"

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This is a campaign of book burning. It is an attempt to erase an important area of knowledge, enquiry and controversy from Knowledge (XXG).

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Where have we seen this before? It is out in the open for all to track. It is in private userspace, so no issues there. BTW, I have seen

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wikipage says nothing about any conspriacies. GabrielF admits that it is "beyond the scope of the page, but keeps it on the page anyway.

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to official policy...This is one of the most important guidelines on Knowledge (XXG), and it deserves to be promoted to FULL POLICY."

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Not 9/11 CT but election CT. not notable cause celebre. Sad case actually as his reputation is attacked from all sides post-humously.

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which led to the clarification of what should be on the user page. This is dispite other users who have similar POV as GabrielF:

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It's in userspace and is simply a list as anyone might have a list for their purposes of helping them maintain Knowledge (XXG).--

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Bad faith nomination, see Striver stating he is going to get this page deleted since his page was deleted for violating the rules

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are clear. User:GabrielF actively encourages users how to cast their decisions on AfDs, which is a clear violation of wikipolicy.

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argument you taught us all about elsewhere on this page. So, being a fallacy an'all, it's nothing to get too concerned about.

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So what does "This is one of the most important guidelines on Knowledge (XXG), and it deserves to be promoted to FULL POLICY."

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Knowledge (XXG):Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Islam:The Muslim Guild/Articles for deletion (second nomination)

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Knowledge (XXG):Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Islam:The Muslim Guild/Articles for deletion (second nomination)

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certainly, I would say that young earth creationism should be portrayed purely as myth, without any claim to reality (and it

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above examples and the location of it being in a "private club", this having attracted the attention of other users as well

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I don't understand the problem with Ben contacting Jimbo Wales, especially since his suggestion to comment did not violate

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What does "This is one of the most important guidelines on Knowledge (XXG), and it deserves to be promoted to FULL POLICY."

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You lack sufficient influence in the community to warrant such a compromise (Note: 'compromise' only has one 'i' in it).

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This conspiracy theory noticeboard will get more participants, many who share the same POV as those who contribute now.

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Sigh, way to avoid answering all 5 questions. Maybe we should have Morton answer what he meant by "we". Best wishes,

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to eliminate the userpage, but that doesn't matter -- community precedent has long allowed these kinds of userpages.

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is the use of Knowledge (XXG) rules to thwart Knowledge (XXG) policy. In many cases, gaming the system is a form of

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and "This is one of the most important guidelines on Knowledge (XXG), and it deserves to be promoted to FULL POLICY."

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This statment is clearly not supported by the page history, "axe-grinding piece of cruft promoted by Left-Leaners"

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I think Striver's reasoning is not particularly persuasive myself, so I understand why you may have voted "keep".

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Since it is only in userspace, only a limited amount of people are aware of it's existance, thus creating a bias

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between American political factions, or enemies and supporters of the 911TM (sic). When we have nonsense like

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Wales may want to see this. BTW, I hope you are having a great Christmas Holiday (plus New Years coming up).

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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a

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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a

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example ... Perhaps an example that didnt involve FAAFA to get blocked for disruption would be in order. --

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Since the name change, this AfD page has since grown to encourage vote stacking on policy page straw polls,

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The majority of these AfDs which are listed, the users contibuted nothing to these articles, disregarding:

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Also you may want to ask Morton all thesde questions on his talk page as they are all addressed to him. --

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that on 10/4/06 a board member added the following summary regarding the status of current AfD's saying

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readily admits, that many of these listed AfDs have nothing to do with 9/11 Conspiracy theories either:

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellany page below.

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added this entry, which has nothing to do with 9/11, instead, it is a political article about the

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has been used to promote the deletion of several well researched articles in the past, including

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as examples. When this very same userpage was considered before, the community decided it was a

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policies. All in all though I think I understand your point, just think your example was bad. --

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/Allegations of state terrorism by United States of America

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The format is inappropriate, and has led to "suggestion" on how people should vote, for example:

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It is used in a userspace. Such a legitimate project would be used in a neutral or project space

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How about making an official categorization of AfDs as a comprimise? This was suggested in the

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I think you and I agree somewhat and will leave it at that. And BTW, enjoy your holidays. ;-)

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You also readily admit that Striver is a target of this user page in your ad hominem attack.

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Thanks for catching that User:NuclearUmpf, I mixed up another conversation with the one on

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Do you have any previous AfDs, Arbcom rulings, or wikipolicy which supports your position?

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I'm not quite sure why I have been cited in regard to this MfD out of context. The page

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I would also like to point out to a similar "tracking device" of mine that was deleted,

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long a hot-bed of original research and conspiracy theories, with most sources failing

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long a hot-bed of original research and conspiracy theories, with most sources failing

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Knowledge (XXG):Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Association of 9/11 All Sides Editors

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other work to do, and maybe only have a bit of spare time on the weekend to rip apart

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there will be more scruitiny of those articles which editors consider "conspiracies".

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This conspiracy theory noticeboard will get more diverse participants. Best wishes,

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I think I have illustrated clearly how this page has repeatedly violated wikipolicy.

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between American political factions, or enemies and supporters of the 911TM (sic)."

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expanded to include political articles which this small group of editors don't like

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We are not Encyclopedia Britannica, nor are we simply attempting to mimic them. --

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/List of proven conspiracies (2nd nomination)

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I can't read Admin Tyrenius response because XP has since had his page deleted.

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any bearing on the question here. If you find articles which are beyond fixing,

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would keep are ideal, and should be the bar to maintain this project correctly.

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to the deletion section, and writes: "we cannot be stopped! haha!" who is "we"?

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rhetoric, if not outright act condescendingly to other editors on this page. --

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is you wanted to MfD it a week after the last one ended ... come on now ... --

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Again, your own arguments against me show why this userpage should not exist.

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personal pages that have issues that need more attention than anything else.

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attempt to banish this helpful userpage to the Wilderness. Last attempt by

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be advocating how to decide this AfD on this page which is up for deletion?

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a bit as GabrielF is a good standing contributor to this project. Cheers.

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in postmodern epistemology, whether intentionally or not) let me be brief.

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The people clearly exist — but if their notability depends on something

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Yes, Merry Christmas BenBurch! I see you have asked J. Wales to comment

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fallacy of logic, trying to deflect criticism of this userpage onto me:

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How about creating an official wikipedia page about conspiracy theories?

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I agree strongly that many of the themes of these articles are crackpot.

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I may be guilty of "vote stacking" but is this any different from what

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/Lori Klausutis (third nomination)

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I appreciate your blunt honesty User:NuclearUmpf. If you ever want to

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and has voted on several of these AfDs on this userpage. Best wishes,

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Have to say I am surely disappointed User:NuclearUmpf. Happy editing,

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I have to agree with Junglecat that Ben should clean up his comments.

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which this page has been involved with in the past. Happy holidays,

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stick to conspiracist material, I'd be delighted for it to remain.

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per lack of arguments in nomination. Suggest RfAr against Ben. —

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/Jill Pike (second nomination)

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that did not allowed for "infomation" on what is being voted on. --

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at the recent holocaust denial conference in Iran. 91 google hits."

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What is the difference between what I did on these talk pages and

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What is the difference between what I did on these talk pages and

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founded in science than alternate 9/11 theories - maybe actually

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.

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So what exactly is this board on? User:NuclearUmpf, you deleted

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User:GabrielF, bottom line, you and your userpage are violating

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Knowledge (XXG):User_page#What can I not have on my user page?

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles_for_deletion#Before_nominating_an_AfD

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21:24, 21 December 2006 (UTC) I didn't know I was logged out.

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How is "axe-grinding piece of cruft promoted by Left-Leaners"

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Knowledge (XXG) is not for things made up in school one day.

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is less than satisfactory. Please, calm down, take a cup of

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per the above eloquent reasons, especially by Rosenkreuz. --

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Note, this is the second MfD on this page. The first one is

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and esposing young age earth arguments can only be seen as

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Knowledge (XXG):User page#What can I have on my user page?

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as Morton's has repeatedly on this userpage. Best wishes,

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comment on the edits, not the editor. I will ask for the

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Allegations of state terrorism by United States of America

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Allegations of state terrorism by United States of America

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I once offered this group of wikiusers who are supporting

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/Moshe Aryeh Friedman

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Morton and several other users have repeatedly violated

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JzG was the admin who closed the first AfD Snowball keep

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Who is defending anyone? I am stating you are violating

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yourself when it was first put up by Fair. Best wishes,

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You did not address my question, so I will ask it again:

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/Yellowcake forgery

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NuclearUmpf, in defending Morton, please explain this:

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what it does contain and what its named is what matters

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Knowledge (XXG) talk:Single purpose account#SPA mention

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This user page is in violation of several wikipolicies:

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on "What can I not have on my user page?" and because

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among others, have admonished others, in violation of

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I didn’t say contacting Jimbo was a bad thing, I said

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No further edits should be made to this page. 2468:"the Earth is at least 4.3 billion years in age" 2237:Again, Morton and others, have clearly violated 1055:take your pick up the worthy arguments above. 213:Seems like little more than a tracking device. 3960:really don't know why its being brought up. -- 592:The "snowball keep" was a vote of 18-5, after 329:ANI:Userpage_used_to_allegedly_vote_stack_AfDs 2999:violations and off topic AfDs, as catalogued 2597:out of userspace as an attempt at neutrality. 2232:User:Travb/vote_stacking#Vote_spamming_case_2 2106:did repeatedly. Where is the condemnation of 1991:Most imporant, your argument is a fallacious 1839:"...userspace that isn't stating a position " 427:violations and off topic AfDs, as catalogued 8: 3797:For those who want to delete this userpage: 3766:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Deletion sorting 3715:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Deletion sorting 2791:Knowledge (XXG):Straw_polls#Survey_etiquette 1828:Knowledge (XXG):Straw_polls#Survey_etiquette 1592:Knowledge (XXG):Straw_polls#Survey_etiquette 1247:Knowledge (XXG):Straw_polls#Survey_etiquette 1237:Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Deletion sorting 785:Knowledge (XXG):Straw_polls#Survey_etiquette 481:Knowledge (XXG):Straw_polls#Survey_etiquette 408:Knowledge (XXG):Straw_polls#Survey_etiquette 3162:And a Merry Christmas to you too BenBurch. 962:and I share that concern. Merry Christmas. 921:I will become the most active protector of 618:Does really much more need to be stated? -- 614:Here is Strivers quote from the above link 538:(See my "Strong Delete" below for examples) 3780:For those who want to keep this userpage: 2975:"(all gone! now what will we do for fun?)" 1653:"then again you attempted to defend cplot" 1211:campaign for or against anything or anyone 379:Userpage_used_to_allegedly_vote_stack_AfDs 2945:which "carry no community policy weight". 2899:ANI: What is the precedence on userpages? 1285:nn Air America conspiracy cruft-promoter. 308:, one that does not have "suggestion"? -- 3175:Very good, you might want clean up your 2513:What's your point? I don't believe that 1846:is not stating a position? Best wishes, 1810:listing off topic articles for deletion 1791:GabrielF actually actively stopped Fair/ 887:wouldn't call young earth creationism a 2712:, after one day, with a 18-5 for keep, 2211:User:Physicq210, and User:NuclearUmpf, 1821:and listing a Requests for arbitration. 1585:and listing a Requests for arbitration. 1157:. 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Another "usual suspect." 2895:User:GabrielF/ConspiracyNoticeboard 2893:being a wikiproject, but comparing 2887:User:GabrielF/ConspiracyNoticeboard 2275:User:GabrielF/ConspiracyNoticeboard 2221:User:GabrielF/ConspiracyNoticeboard 2217:User:GabrielF/ConspiracyNoticeboard 2092:User:GabrielF/ConspiracyNoticeboard 2020:User:GabrielF/ConspiracyNoticeboard 2008:User:GabrielF/ConspiracyNoticeboard 1975:User:GabrielF/ConspiracyNoticeboard 913:User:GabrielF/ConspiracyNoticeboard 774:User:GabrielF/ConspiracyNoticeboard 395:User:Can't sleep, clown will eat me 375:User:GabrielF/ConspiracyNoticeboard 367:User:GabrielF/ConspiracyNoticeboard 133:long a hot-bed of original research 67:User:GabrielF/ConspiracyNoticeboard 1988:, by telling people how to "vote". 1818:, listing policy page straw polls, 1544:which has nothing to do with 9/11. 24: 3518:How do you feel about the above: 3452:Knowledge (XXG):Taking it outside 3448:Knowledge (XXG):Taking it outside 2114:violations? Have a good evening, 918:I will make these editors a deal: 3658: 3610: 3106: 2241:. Which you have yet to address. 2088:I will ask for the second time: 1865: 1207:As Jimbo Wales himself stated : 1105: 955:I appreciate your concern about 448: 4207:wikipedia is not a battleground 3753:I suggest a comprimise, as per 2785:: Has this userpage violated: 1392:Inclusion endorsed by GabrielF 1316:Inclusion endorsed by GabrielF 2550:per Morton devonshire, Nuclear 2466:and unambiguously states that 2449:User:XP/PendingDeletionsofNote 269:User:XP/PendingDeletionsofNote 44:The result of the debate was 1: 4280:16:11, 29 December 2006 (UTC) 4268:12:52, 29 December 2006 (UTC) 4248:03:26, 29 December 2006 (UTC) 4229:03:00, 29 December 2006 (UTC) 4213:02:39, 29 December 2006 (UTC) 4192:22:16, 28 December 2006 (UTC) 4132:18:43, 28 December 2006 (UTC) 4108:18:39, 28 December 2006 (UTC) 4093:18:32, 28 December 2006 (UTC) 4068:18:22, 28 December 2006 (UTC) 4053:18:18, 28 December 2006 (UTC) 4012:18:04, 28 December 2006 (UTC) 3994:17:55, 28 December 2006 (UTC) 3970:17:51, 28 December 2006 (UTC) 3953:17:48, 28 December 2006 (UTC) 3931:17:43, 28 December 2006 (UTC) 3917:17:41, 28 December 2006 (UTC) 3889:17:30, 28 December 2006 (UTC) 3870:17:18, 28 December 2006 (UTC) 3836:09:22, 28 December 2006 (UTC) 3820:20:32, 27 December 2006 (UTC) 3789:not suseptable to AfDs again. 3734:19:00, 27 December 2006 (UTC) 3688:20:53, 26 December 2006 (UTC) 3673:21:58, 26 December 2006 (UTC) 3652:21:50, 26 December 2006 (UTC) 3639:21:24, 26 December 2006 (UTC) 3625:21:14, 26 December 2006 (UTC) 3599:20:51, 26 December 2006 (UTC) 3561:00:43, 29 December 2006 (UTC) 3540:19:36, 26 December 2006 (UTC) 3499:19:00, 26 December 2006 (UTC) 3464:19:36, 26 December 2006 (UTC) 3442:18:32, 26 December 2006 (UTC) 3427:18:05, 26 December 2006 (UTC) 3406:12:47, 26 December 2006 (UTC) 3392:21:12, 25 December 2006 (UTC) 3355:20:39, 25 December 2006 (UTC) 3323:20:08, 26 December 2006 (UTC) 3298:20:02, 26 December 2006 (UTC) 3274:17:58, 26 December 2006 (UTC) 3257:16:33, 26 December 2006 (UTC) 3248:01:53, 26 December 2006 (UTC) 3220:01:29, 26 December 2006 (UTC) 3199:21:26, 25 December 2006 (UTC) 3167:04:17, 25 December 2006 (UTC) 3156:04:07, 25 December 2006 (UTC) 3140:20:10, 26 December 2006 (UTC) 3121:17:55, 26 December 2006 (UTC) 3074:13:01, 26 December 2006 (UTC) 3060:12:57, 26 December 2006 (UTC) 3046:12:43, 26 December 2006 (UTC) 3031:12:54, 26 December 2006 (UTC) 3013:01:01, 25 December 2006 (UTC) 2986:06:48, 27 December 2006 (UTC) 2839:Have to do with conspiracies? 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