208:, not inherently offensive. While some cultures keep sensuality hidden, many do not, and this fits with many Userboxes that are barely tangentially related to the project, through editing interests, like politics and other personal interests. Before deleting swathes of such Userboxes, hold an RfC on userbox policy, and when nominating Userboxes, advise all users transcluding them.
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I do not believe
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296:- The userbox says "This user appreciates nice lingerie on his wife when he sees it." The notion that this is a "sexualised fantasy" or "sexist other'ing" or implies that women should "sit around, looking pretty" is extremely idiosyncratic and should not be entertained further.
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