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secondary sources. If we had criteria which granted notability status to certain reliable sources, then that would permit Knowledge (XXG) to serve primary information about those sources to Knowledge (XXG) readers who wanted whatever context was available on those sources. This would encourage deeper understanding about the reliability of Knowledge (XXG) articles. It also would be the origin of new challenges which the Knowledge (XXG) community does not currently have infrastructure or planning to address.
196:"Notability" is the term for judging whether Knowledge (XXG) will have an article on a subject. "Reliable source" is the term for judging whether Knowledge (XXG) will summarize and cite information from that source. There is not necessarily any overlap between these concepts. However, as Knowledge (XXG) has expanded as a publication, it has come to happen that the Knowledge (XXG) community has judged some sources to be reliable (and valid) while judging those same 31: 98: 282:
This situation is out of scope for this documentation. It is presented here to acknowledge and dismiss it. This could be another issue for a guide other than this one. Also, eventually Knowledge (XXG) will seek to summarize sources which are popular off-wiki, but the more pressing current problem is
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However, Wikidata's own notability criteria are more inclusive than Knowledge (XXG)'s criteria. Wikidata welcomes all of the information that Knowledge (XXG) could possibly present based on primary sources. Wikidata also has its own quality control process for this information and eventually will
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This would be complicated. Knowledge (XXG) itself cannot publish original research so publication would have to happen in another venue. This is a terribly tedious and unorthodox research direction which is why it is so uncommon and unpopular. There is no obvious audience for publishing on this
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Knowledge (XXG) community members agree that filling articles with primary source material is problematic and undesirable. However, there has always been agreement that some primary information is useful so long as a topic meets notability criteria and that we combine it with information from
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Knowledge (XXG) editors could either conduct or arrange to do research and publication on the sources which Knowledge (XXG) cites. Journal editors would probably give interviews. University students or research departments might collaborate with the wiki community to do publication.
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The status quo is that the topic of an individual reliable source does not merit a Knowledge (XXG) article, no matter how Knowledge (XXG) cites that source, until and unless anyone demonstrates that it passes usual criteria in the usual way.
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This documentation all raises the issue of assigning notability to sources on the basis of their off-wiki popularity. The consensus is that Knowledge (XXG) should not assign notability to non-notable topics based on off-wiki use.
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Anyone who wants to get started building out information about reliable sources may do so presently in Wikidata. If and when this information becomes welcome in some way in Knowledge (XXG), then it would be easy to transfer.
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This creates a situation where Knowledge (XXG) is publishing and circulating the name of a publication as authoritative, but is not also able to provide readers with additional context about that publication.
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Small-town regional newspapers might not be popular in general, but could be essential as sources for that region. These sources could be key citations already used in 50+ Knowledge (XXG) articles.
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BroadwayWorld.com is a database for theatre productions. As of August 2018 about 6000 Knowledge (XXG) articles cite this database. The publication itself is not notable
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which Knowledge (XXG) editors cite. This document considers assigning notability to sources on the basis of their importance as citations in Knowledge (XXG).
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Knowledge (XXG) does not have strong precedents of soliciting original journalism or research. However, this could become a Knowledge (XXG) activity.
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The Knowledge (XXG) community sometimes designates special notability criteria to grant notability recognition to topics which do not pass the
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Without a Knowledge (XXG) article, Knowledge (XXG) readers and editors cannot easily determine the source metadata, including the following:
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It contains the advice or opinions of one or more Knowledge (XXG) contributors. This page is not an encyclopedia article, nor is it one of
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In this view the Knowledge (XXG) community does not need to make any plans to share information about sources unless they are notable.
163:- A source meets Knowledge (XXG)'s reliable source guidelines and is appropriate to cite and summarize in Knowledge (XXG) articles 464: 243: 213:
Imagine that 1000 Knowledge (XXG) articles are citing a particular source which itself does not have a Knowledge (XXG) article.
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as subjects which are not notable. This problem increases as more Knowledge (XXG) articles contain references to those sources.
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Special interest journals might be used in 50+ Knowledge (XXG) articles on a topic but not of interest outside that niche field
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There is an in-Knowledge (XXG) consensus among experienced editors that a source is especially important for a niche topic
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There are no plans in place or scheduled development to use Wikidata information to address this Knowledge (XXG) problem.
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A publication has printed more than 1,000,000 words (about 4000 paper pages) of original human written prose
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Here are some example criteria which the Knowledge (XXG) community could designate as conferring notability:
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providing context to Knowledge (XXG) readers for the sources which Knowledge (XXG) is using right now.
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Consider the situation where the Knowledge (XXG) community is in agreement about the following:
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or any specialized notability criteria, so is not eligible for a Knowledge (XXG) article
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There are no special notability criteria for reliable sources proposed at this time.
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Tie between the publication and either its publisher or the publisher's owner
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Options for developing Knowledge (XXG) articles for reliable sources
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on how notability may be interpreted within their area of interest.
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These are the cases which are most relevant to Knowledge (XXG).
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Solicit third-party publication to make these topics notable
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6-12 page local near-daily newspapers do this in 5-15 years
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More than 1000 Knowledge (XXG) articles cite a publication
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Create special notability criteria to pass these topics
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It contains the advice and/or opinions of one or more
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For-profit, noncommercial, or government affiliations
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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/BroadwayWorld
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Knowledge (XXG):Notability (academic journals)
Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Newspapers/Notability
Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion/BroadwayWorld
Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject YouTube/Notability
Knowledge (XXG):Notability (periodicals)
Knowledge (XXG):Notability (media)
Knowledge (XXG):Notability (academic journals)
WP:GNG
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Knowledge (XXG):WikiProject Newspapers/Notability
Knowledge (XXG):Notability (periodicals)

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