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he or she will ask for clarification. If not, it's better to assume that every editor has read every word of text. Not only does it create a more cordial atmosphere which is unfettered by the tension creating by badgering other editors, it also makes the text considerably shorter and easier to read
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A participating editor in an RfA will often see reasons to oppose a candidate that he or she feels are frivolous, irrelevant, and simply don't mesh with that editor's own feelings. However, voicing that opinion more than once is generally regarding as badgering, and may actually harm the candidate's
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You can't get consensus all by yourself, and if you repeat yourself you're only going to annoy other editors. Take a look at any of the more contentious deletion debates and you're likely to find one or two editors who make it a point to respond to each !vote they disagree with. The same can be
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is in reply to opposing viewpoints. Frequently this increases the emotional involvement of all editors and leads to comments that aren't exactly about the merits of the article in question. Incivility is often close behind, and the closing admin has a lot more irrelevant text to wade through in
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Knowledge is full of opportunities to debate things, but don't distract from your well-formed arguments by assuming other editors will agree with them if they only have a chance to read them again. Many editors with strong opinions only weigh in once on a particular debate, knowing that their
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for the site. Editors who feel strongly for a particular position sometimes fall into a repetitive pattern, saying the same thing again and again in different ways, under the false assumption that the only reason consensus isn't building in the desired direction is because other editors don't
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When a candidate replies to most of the opposes it leads to the impression that he or she is desperate to become an administrator. Some editors specifically consider this a reason to oppose the candidate, while others may be more subtly moved by those comments.
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may seek to dissuade opposers by responding to each of their points. Such behavior is considered badgering by some, and annoying by many. It makes the editor appear desperate, which leads to the question, "Why is he or she so intent to getting his or her way?"
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If no other editor chooses to either revert or make additional edits in favor of your position, then there just isn't consensus for your changes. If you feel strongly about it, go ahead and seek an opinion on the article's talk page. However,
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Knowledge is based upon the written word, and the MediaWiki software in particular is good at keeping a record of those written words. This is particularly important to keep in mind when building consensus, be it for making a
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chances. Similarly, if an editor feels that his or her reasons for opposing a candidate are being discounted, it's easy to ask each and every supporting editor if they'd considered that viewpoint. It's better to
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How do you build consensus if you can only make your point once? You have to wait for someone else to chime in. This means that if you make a change to an article, and another editor reverts it, that you
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One of the reasons why responding to every criticism in a debate is problematic is because it tends to shift the focus onto the editor, rather than his or her arguments. A strident
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at the same time. By embracing the once is enough philosophy, you've actually made it easier for other editors to consider your views!
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It contains the advice or opinions of one or more Knowledge contributors. This page is not an encyclopedia article, nor is it one of
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Consensus is built by the strength of arguments, not by their frequency. Only make your point once in a discussion, and
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The truth of the matter? The other editors understand you just fine, they just don't happen to
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here, too: state your case, and if you get no response, well, you haven't achieved consensus.
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This is compounded if the candidate is addressing the same issue with more than one editor.
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arguments are measured on their strength, not on the number of words used to advance them.
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It's not necessary to say it more than once. If an editor isn't sure what you mean,
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seen in the RfA process, particularly when an editor known for having strong
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may attempt to refute every opposing position at an Afd. Similarly, an
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to reread what you've written or ask for clarification if they need it.
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Consensus
Knowledge's policies or guidelines
thoroughly vetted by the community
Shortcut
WP:ONCE
trust other editors
controversial article change
deleting an article
selecting an administrator
say it once
inclusionist
deletionist
editor seeking adminship
Articles for deletion
assume that they have
inclusionist or deletionist
assume
FTW
Category
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