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RfD can also serve as a central discussion forum for debates about which page a redirect should target. In cases where retargeting the redirect could be considered controversial, it is advisable to leave a notice on the talk page of the redirect's current target page or the proposed target page to
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The purpose of a good redirect is to eliminate the possibility that readers will find themselves staring blankly at "Search results 1–10 out of 378" instead of the article they were looking for. If someone could plausibly enter the redirect's name when searching for the target article, it's a good
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to locate other redirects that may be related to the one you are nominating. After going to the redirect target page and selecting "What links here" in the toolbox on the left side of your computer screen, select both "Hide transclusions" and "Hide links" filters to display the redirects to the
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if a redirect is reasonably old (or is the result of moving a page that has been there for quite some time), then it is possible that its deletion will break incoming links (such links coming from older revisions of Knowledge (XXG) pages, from edit summaries, from other Wikimedia projects or
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Someone finds them useful. Hint: If someone says they find a redirect useful, they probably do. You might not find it useful—this is not because the other person is being untruthful, but because you browse Knowledge (XXG) in different ways. Evidence of usage can be gauged by using the
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because they are of benefit to the browsing user. Some extra vigilance by editors will be required to minimize the occurrence of those frequent misspellings in article text because the linkified misspellings will not appear as broken links; consider tagging the redirect with the
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difficult for users to locate similarly named articles via the search engine. For example, if the user searches for "New Articles", and is redirected to a disambiguation page for "Articles", it would take much longer to get to the newly added articles on Knowledge
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less likely, whether by redirecting a plural to a singular, by redirecting a frequent misspelling to a correct spelling, by redirecting a misnomer to a correct term, by redirecting to a synonym, etc. In other words, redirects with no incoming links are
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If the target article needs to be moved to the redirect title, but the redirect has been edited before and has a history of its own, then the title needs to be freed up to make way for the move. If the move is uncontroversial, tag the redirect for
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Deleting redirects runs the risk of breaking incoming or internal links. For example, redirects resulting from page moves should not normally be deleted without good reason. Links that have existed for a significant length of time, including
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The redirect might cause confusion. For example, if "Adam B. Smith" was redirected to "Andrew B. Smith", because Andrew was accidentally called Adam in one source, this could cause confusion with the article on
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The redirect is offensive or abusive, such as redirecting "Joe Bloggs is a Loser" to "Joe Bloggs" (unless "Joe Bloggs is a Loser" is legitimately discussed in the article), or "Joe Bloggs" to "Loser". (
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If you are unable to edit the redirect page because of protection, this step can be omitted, and after step 2 is completed, a request to add the RFD template can be put on the redirect's talk page.
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shortcut redirects, which technically are in the main article space. Some long-standing cross-namespace redirects are also kept because of their long-standing history and potential usefulness. "
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The subject matter of articles may be represented by some sources outside Knowledge (XXG) in non-neutral terms. Such terms are generally avoided in Knowledge (XXG) article titles, per the
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Please do not unilaterally rename or change the target of a redirect while it is under discussion. This adds unnecessary complication to the discussion for participants and closers.
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Articles that are created using non-neutral titles are routinely moved to a new neutral title, which leaves behind the old non-neutral title as a working redirect (e.g.
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to a page whose subject is unrelated to that language (or a culture that speaks that language) should generally not be created. (Implausible typos or misnomers are
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Requests for deletion of redirects from one page's talk page to another's do not need to be listed here. Anyone can remove the redirect by blanking the page. The
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Redirects should not be deleted just because they have no incoming links. Please do not use this as the only reason to delete a redirect. However, redirects that
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They have a potentially useful page history, or an edit history that should be kept to comply with the licensing requirements for a merge (see
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If you want to replace an unprotected redirect with an article, do not list it here. Turning redirects into articles is wholly encouraged.
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If the redirect could plausibly be expanded into an article, and the target article contains virtually no information on the subject.
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out of article space, such as one pointing into the User or Knowledge (XXG) namespace. The major exception to this rule are the
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If a good-faith RfD nomination proposes to delete a redirect and has no discussion after at least 7 days, the default result is
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or very obscure synonym for an article name that is not mentioned in the target, it is unlikely to be useful. In particular,
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redirects should point to neutrally titled articles about the subject of the term. Non-neutral redirects may be tagged with
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It is generally considered good practice to notify the creator and main contributors of the redirect(s) that you nominate.
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If the redirect is broken, meaning it redirects to an article that does not exist, it can be immediately deleted under
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target of the redirect (if you have a suggestion for a better target, include this in the text that you insert after
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may be placed on the creator/main contributors' user talk page to provide notice of the discussion. Please replace
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If you are nominating multiple redirects as a group, repeat all the above steps for each redirect being nominated.
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If you think a redirect points to the wrong target article, this is a good place to discuss the proper target.
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are discussed. Items usually stay listed for a week or so, after which they are deleted, kept, or retargeted.
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may be deleted and replaced by a redirect pointing towards the article from which the fork originated (e.g.
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refer readers to the redirect's nomination to allow input and help form consensus for the redirect's target.
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If you want to move a page but a redirect is in the way, do not list it here. For non-controversial cases,
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The actions you would like to occur (deletion, re-targeting, etc.) and the rationale for those actions.
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with the name of the respective creator/main contributors' redirect and use an edit summary such as:
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links, should be left alone in case there are any existing links on external pages pointing to them.
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The action you would like to occur (deletion, re-targeting, etc.) and the rationale for that action.
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have incoming links are sometimes deleted, so that is not a sufficient condition for keeping. (See
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To list multiple related redirects for discussion, use the following syntax. Repeat line 2 for
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In discussions, always ask yourself whether or not a redirect would be helpful to the reader.
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and are unlikely to be useful, and therefore may be nominated for deletion, perhaps under
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to the RfD tag so that people using the template redirect are aware of the nomination.
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at the very beginning of the redirect page you are listing for discussion and enter
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Therefore consider the deletion only of either harmful redirects or of recent ones.
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If the redirect you are nominating is in template namespace, consider adding
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Notices about the RfD discussion may also be left on relevant talk pages.
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They aid searches on certain terms. For example, users who might see the "
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Please be aware of these general policies, which apply here as elsewhere:
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Go back to the redirect page, and choose "XFD" from the new Twinkle menu.
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The redirect makes no sense, such as redirecting "Apple" to "Orange". (
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template to the nomination, to insert a note that this has been done.
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Non-neutral redirects are commonly created for three reasons:
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a redirect if one or more of the following conditions is met (
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of the respective redirect(s). For convenience, the template
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The exceptions to this rule would be redirects that are not
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template to assist editors in monitoring these misspellings.
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The redirect is to a closely related word form, such as a
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Note that, for this step, the "target article" is the
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If appropriate, inform members of the most relevant
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Try this semi-automated process instead: (note only
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on the redirect to see the number of views it gets.
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but note also the exceptions listed below this list
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