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2435:, more links to previous cases inside), since he was way more uncivil to Nmate (and others in general, see link). Mark now seemingly edit warring from at least one IP (see above) There are massive general attacks on his userpage as a farewell text(?) "couple of mobs pushing their crazy political propaganda", "being chased or harassed by a couple of jerks", "fight extreme nationalist and chauvinistic edits" (see the favourite words "chauvinistic", "propaganda", "nationalist"?ย :)) ) - obviously referring to 3384:, and then post a link to the SSP case to the "Experiment" discussion. Then different editors (including non-involved editors) can weigh in with their opinions on who they think might be behind different accounts. If we have a clear consensus there, administrative action can be taken directly, without requiring a CheckUser. In general (Thatcher, please correct me if I'm getting this wrong), an SSP is a better "first stop" for complex sockpuppetry investigation. -- 856: 521: 3558:
a diff of the edits that you are most concerned about, and ask (again, politely) if Rembaoud would consider removing certain comments which you find offensive. Most editors respond very well to this, and I know that I would take it as a very strong sign of good faith if Rembaoud were to accommodate your (polite) requests. Note that Rembaoud would also be free to make similar (polite) requests of you though. --
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main activity was to change official geographic names in Slovakia-related articles to their Hungarian versions. He has been reverted by all the users listed here, but that basically is the only thing that we have in common. Rembaoud has been placed under editing restrictions and his edits are being
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I'm not going to mess with this page since it's really more in Thatcher's sphere, so I will bow to Thatcher's wisdom on how to deal with issues of civility and refactoring here. However, Tankred and Svetovid, what I would recommend is that you post a very polite request to Rembaoud's talkpage, with
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of the ruling should also allow me to place revert restrictions. MarkBA hasn't been active for a week, but I have placed two other editors on "no non-vandalism reverts for 30 days" restrictions. What do you recommend at this point? Do you think I should file a request for clarification to ensure
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that I'm on firm ground as regards edit war restrictions, or should I proceed as I've been doing? Any admin who wishes is of course welcome to join my "experiment" page, but I'd rather see it through than turn it over to AE, since I'm learning a lot which is helping with proposal writing for the
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in edit summaries and on talkpages, etc. etc. (see contribution lists' edit summaries) This case is huge, and possibly this is just the top of it. The owner (s)of the IPs must be banned for life imho, since this is obviously good for nobody, and they are digging the ditches between Slovakian and
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outright identifies himself as a sockpuppet/secondary account and his editing style and articles he edits show some similarity to that of MarkBA and socks. However after 15 or more of his socks being detected and blocked it is expected that he will try extra hard to conceal them.
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Thanks for the correction. I found checkuser more clear, than the SSP thing, since we do not know who's are they, and they might impersonate MarkBA as well as did it with me. Better not to accuse anybody. BTW WP:SSP and WP:RCU seem(ed) pretty similar to me.
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The reason I deferred consideration is that this looked like a fishing expedition against anyone Rembaoud disagreed with. However, I looked at the history of some of the articles and there is definitely a problem here.
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confused though on which restrictions I am allowed to place as an uninvolved admin, since per the "letter of the restriction" at Digwuren, it only applies to Civility, AGF, and NPA. But it would seem that the
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for edit warring. Plus once again in a previous edit dispute, but unblocked, since the blocking admin was the same he was disputing. Posted also multiple misleading edit summaries. Whenever on of them is
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I agree with Svetovid and would like to ask someone to remove personal attacks on this page. Rembaoud is under editing restrictions and many words on this page clearly violate NPA.
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arbcom case, and continuation of all the previous activities listed in the earlier checkuser case, edit warring, harassment (mass reverting of targeted user) general disruption.
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blocked (public enemy no.1 for Svetovid, Tankred, Tulkolahten, and MarkBA), he eventually attacked the administrator wich tried to mediate between them. See this:
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not only for consideration of MarkBA's actions, but whether any or all of the editors of the contended articles be placed on 1RR or other sanctions per
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I demand an apology for being accused of using a sock puppet, especially because Rembaoud accompanied this accusation with derogatory terms.--
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More of this can be read here, with lots of links (even to previous cases) and explanations, (I don't want to copy all material here):
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on March 28 (together with 78....229 WP:3RR violation, the two edited within 1,5 days on the same page from same range, WHOIS ,etc.)
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If you are creating a new request about this user, please add it to the top of the page, above this notice. Don't forget to add
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But, if you wanted to take the time to pull together the diffs, that's yours to spend. We'll see what the CheckUsers say. --
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Same language, same edits, same points of interest, same accusations (vandal, extremist, chauvinist, nationalist), multiple
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There was some concern by several users that the account "The Autobahn" might be used by user:MarkBA to continue editing
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There are possibly more out there, many violating 3RR, ALL involved in edit wars, and possibly belonging to editor(s)
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I agree with Thatcher, SSP is a better option. You can probably copy/paste most of this into a new report at
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Replace this text with your explanation of your request for checkuser and examples of policy violations.
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a short time ago, seems the same sockmaster is returning again so your help would be appreciated.
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MarkBA, and all of the listed anons, have been tagged for sockpuppetry and blocked for 1 week. --
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I think you need to follow the SSP investigation and try to narrow it down to a specific user.
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on his userpage. When the personal parts wrre removed, he started an edit war, to put them back
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that these IPs are belonging to one or two of the following users (see explanation below):
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Assuming that he is editing while logged out, what is the policy or enforcement violation?
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There's definitely still a ways to go, but it seems to be definite progress so far. ย :) --
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since April 17, clearly a highly disruptive and agressive user. With almost no credibility
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Possibly two different users. I do not want to accuse anybody, but it is highly suspicious
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As the IP has a clearly disruptive editing pattern, I think a Checkuser is needed.
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and have already issued restrictions on several of the involved editors (see
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A, C, E, (possibly B & F too, if the IP's user(s) is/are listed here:
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For evidence on banned sockpupeteer MarkBA see previous CU cases and SSP
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Thanks Thatcher. ย :) I've actually got a centralized page going at
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User talk:Elonka/Hungarian-Slovakian experiment#Tankred's userpage
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whom are under general restrictions from a previous arbitration
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the IP 194.160.75.10 listed was blocked as a sock of MarkBA.
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Hungarian/Slovakian-Hungarian users deeper and deeper, so
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rang the bell. He also used the phrase "Capiche?" during
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edits as MarkBA earlier at the very same article. Here
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with multiple disruptive edits/edit warring belongs to
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since March 30, but massively edit warring ever since
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at a category MarkBA created. More than suspicious.
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Tankred was not that "polite", see above. 3257:For the record, the actual thread is here: 1133: 552: 86: 3454:User:Elonka/Hungarian-Slovakian experiment 1127: 546: 80: 29: 2838:- similar to above, provocative edits on 1157: 576: 110: 2670:- similar as above, active until April 2 1139: 558: 92: 2475:Expulsion of Germans after World War II 2332:Knowledge (XXG):Requests for checkuser 806:see also Digwuren arbcom case logs on 18:Knowledge (XXG):Requests for checkuser 3189:on Svetovid's side, reverting 4 times 1845:78.99.something & 84.47.something 7: 115:Filed: 22:17, 2 August 2008 (UTC))) 3017:from same range as the previous IPs 1162:Filed: 12:27, 18 April 2008 (UTC) 28: 3405: 3361: 1101: 854: 825: 581:Filed: 07:44, 23 May 2008 (UTC) 519: 2364:. When he was unable to manage 49:(but will still appear here). 1: 3367:Additional information needed 2334:. 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