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to figure out who is the boss at home). They contributed independent from this article as well and are planning to continue to contribute in their area of specializations (history and biochemistry). I hope that is fine to encourage people to contribute to
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This is ridiculous. Resid is one of the greatest scientist I have ever met and a true genius. We have been long friends. He introduced me to this project. That is the only connection between us. The evidences you provided worthless to mention. (We are all living in US and do not worry about writing
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makes it clear that how an admin can misuse his privileges irresponsibly. He did that before and even without waiting the result he blocked my account indefinitely again now. Thanks for the NSLE that he unblocked my account and I am able to write this response. I leave the decision about admin
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The NPOV tag is not needed because you ruined the whole article as you wished still crying. You are vandalizing the article still crying. You are hiding the facts and truth and pretending like you are trying to put it into NPOV form. It is so bad man, it is so
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vandalism, but it would not be inappropriate to assume that edits from IPs that match
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Rgulerdem's 'meatpuppets'. So the blocks are totally uncontroversial on that grounds alone. Carrying on with the RFCU would just be an extra. Call it pure curiosity on my part. As evidence, the RFCU is obviously superfluous.
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project for which he was permanently blocked, after these further demonstrations of bad faith disruptions it would be highly advisable to reinstate the original permanent block if sockpuppetry is indeed verified.
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I inform the people around me about the project and encourage them to contribute. Two of these guys, who are actually a couple living at the next door, joined to the discussion of the article. (I leave it to
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Can we please carry on with proper procedure and the RFCU? Otherwise people will pop up on all corners about the block, drown everbody in petitions, and eventually sombody will unblock rgulerdem again.
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Gulen in its original form. Do you have a 'u character with two dots' on your keyboard?) Well, you may expect some other people also joining to the discussion. You will not be able to hide the facts
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and derivative of it before. He was causing the same kind of problems and edit wars before as well. It is important to realize that because he has self-contradicting remarks. He both claims that
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What are you talking about?!? Do you want to insinuate, that it is prohibited to invite friends to
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The 3 share the same spelling errors (Can't write Gülen with an Umlaut, have problems with using the past tense of 'being biased', and spell intelligent with one "L" only
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Freakofnurture. Checkuser confirmation would be nice but this is pretty obvious; never let it be said that Resid is subtle in his bias...
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I am a student and friend of Mr. Gulerdem. The evidences provided above is meaningless. I am not suckpuppet of anyone else.
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True... which is why I didn't use it but merely referred to its definition.
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