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has already been confirmed by more than half a dozen CheckUsers and all of ArbCom. It is obvious that CheckUser has therefore shown a high degree of likelihood repeatedly (high enough that ArbCom undertook it's first summary ban of an admin ever, so it was not done lightly). If you would like to appeal that, go to ArbCom, not here.
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What Dmcdevit says is true. It is impossible for us to say with absolute certainty that people are sockpuppets, based on checkuser evidence. "Confirmed" actually means "This evidence is so compelling that I'll eat my hat if they're not sockpuppets", i.e. it's nearly completely impossible that they're
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say "there is absolutely no possibility that any of these users could be a different person from any of the others." That's a silly thing to ask for. What we do is say whether the technical evidence confirms suspicions, and to what likelihood. What you are asking for is a review of an ArbCom ban that
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I would like to request that all saved checkuser evidence of these users be released to a checkuser who was not involved in the original investigation, and for that checkuser to state whether on reviewing that evidence they agree that, as has been claimed, the evidence is so convincing/"damning" that
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You're not making any sense; my comment was clearly referring to your "it's not so silly after all" statement. You are free to treat this like a debate and be cryptic about what comment of FT2s you are talking about, but I very much doubt that he said that anyone had ever proven "there is absolutely
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If multiple accounts sharing the same IP across multiple IPs and ISPs is insufficient evidence for sockpuppetry, then we should just shut this whole page down. Or do you have a different standard for users who are popular than for users who are unpopular. I can name a dozen recent cases that were
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I said that asking for a CheckUser who only has access to information from server logs, not DNA tests to tell you "there is absolutely no possibility that any of these users could be a different person from any of the others" is silly. Your response seems to be implying I said something I didn't.
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You said that "there is absolutely no possibility that any of these users could be a different person from any of the others." is a silly thing to ask for - yet that silly thing is PRECISELY what FT2 has already stated, I was simply asking for independent confirmation of that claim.
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no possibility that any of these users could be a different person from any of the others." You're trying draw is into a little rhetorical corner by having us admit that we're not
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not sockpuppets. I'm not sure why this needs reviewing, though? What has lead us to suddenly doubt the checkusers that were involved in the original investigation? --
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If you are creating a new request about this user, please add it to the top of the page, above this notice. Don't forget to add
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answered as "confirmed" on the basis of evidence of equivalent quality and quantity, do you also contest those findings?
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there is absolutely no possibility that any of these users could be a different person from any of the others. --
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certain, as if the alternative is that we are wrong. Why don't you go do help write an encyclopedia instead?
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Basic human nature - people have difficulty admitting - even to themselves - when they're mistaken. @Dmc:
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FT2 is asserting that it has done so, so it's not so silly after all. --
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case formatted, I can't find previous RFCU cases (weird)... --
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Your response seems to be implying I said something I didn't.
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Subsequent requests related to this user should be made
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No, it's implying FT2 said something he did say. --
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