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Please make a section for your evidence and add evidence only in your own section. Please limit your evidence to a maximum 1000 words and 100 diffs, a much shorter, concise presentation is more likely to be effective. Please focus on the issues raised in the complaint and answer and on diffs which
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The result of Jacrosse's involvement on the Neoconservatism page has been one continuous edit war between Jacrosse and all the other editors since 16 December 2005 to the present day--four months straight. Jacrosse has been extremely persistent and aggressive in pushing his POV into the article,
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As such, it is extremely important that you use the prescribed format. Submitted evidence should include a link to the actual page diff; links to the page itself are not sufficient. For example, to cite the edit by Mennonot to the article Anomalous phenomenon adding a link to Hundredth Monkey use
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Be aware that the Arbitrators may at times rework this page to try to make it more coherent. If you are a participant in the case or a third party, please don't try to refactor the page, let the Arbitrators do it. If you object to evidence which is inserted by other participants or third parties
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Following the block, Jacrosse no longer persisted in reinserting the large blocks of text which constituted a fair use violation, and thus a legal liability to Knowledge. He did, however, at this point engage in a viotriolic and uncivil dispute with Cberlet. Here are some choice diffs:
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Jacrosse has been frustrating from day one. Despite appeals to civility, Knowledge policy, and common sense, Jacrosse has engaged in naked revert warring, with nearly complete disregard for talk page consensus and the concerns of fellow editors. My experience is principally with the
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I thought that by protecting the page, the discussion could actually carry on and a consensus could be achieved. Of course, I was wrong. Jacrosse made no attempt to engage other editors who had repeatedly asked him to come to the talk page. The 8 day cooling period had no effect.
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What I personally witnessed, however, was a refusal to discuss his edits to a section about the left-wing origins of Neoconservatism (edits that were quite tendentious, included unattributed opinions, and sometimes removed sourced information or dispute flags—e.g.,
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please cite the evidence and voice your objections within your own section of the page. It is especially important to not remove evidence presented by others. If something is put in the wrong place, please leave it for the arbitrators to move.
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Place argument and diffs which support your assertion, for example, your first assertion might be "Jimmy Wales engages in edit warring". Here you would list specific edits to specific articles which show Jimmy Wales engaging in edit warring
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Place argument and diffs which support the second assertion, for example, your second assertion might be "Jimmy Wales makes personal attacks". Here you would list specific edits where Jimmy Wales made personal attacks.
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article, an article to which it had no relevance at all. See these diffs on the talk page, which testify to other editors' repeated good-faith attempts to discuss Jacrosse's addition and reversions:
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I should also like to point out that Jacrosse's behavior continues unabated, both at Neoconservatism and elsewhere, even after the opening of this arbitration case. Please see
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and I blocked Jacrosse with an expiry time of 24 hours (Persistent insertion of copyvio material, see Knowledge:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Fair_use_violation.3F)
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Based on the evidence I have presented, the policies and guidelines that Jacrosse has disregarded or broken include, but are not necessarily limited to, the following:
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Jacrosse seems to have repeated the pattern of reversion without discussion everywhere he has contributed in Knowledge. Others have testified to this. Please see
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Apparently while this was going on at the Animal House article, Jacrosse was adding this rumor about the Straussians, which he again presented as fact, to the
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Anyone, whether directly involved or not, may add evidence to this page. Please make a header for your evidence and sign your comments with your name.
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and provide counter-evidence, or an explanation of why the evidence is misleading. Do not edit within the evidence section of any other user.
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despite the concerns of more than half a dozen other editors. Coupled with his total disregard for edit summaries (
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The revert war would go on for nearly a month. My basis for reverting Jacrosse's four-paragraph insertions was
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with the mild admonition that Jacrosse "refute, but don't remove, criticism." Jacrosse then almost immediately
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Jacrosse has a consistent pattern of making controversial and/or disputed edits without engaging in discussion
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Jacrosse began with a large number of edits, adding a significant piece of quoted text to Neoconservatism
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Others know more about Jacrosse's original research than I do, so I shall leave that topic to them.
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I'm sorry for the delay. Things have been mad at work. I will do this this week, for certain. --
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include edit summaries, the edit summaries were confrontational and contained personal attacks:
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Jacrosse, without explanation, deleted large sections of the Alger Hiss article. See
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of Jacrosse's reversions (which total 39 between Nov. 28, 2005 and Jan. 31, 2006):
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At Murray Rothbard, he removed a paragraph that cited to a critical report by the
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Less than an hour after unprotected, Jacrosse reinserts the entire disputed text
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and leaves a message on the talk page that doesn't address fair use concerns
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If you disagree with some evidence you see here, please cite the evidence
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When placing evidence here, please be considerate of the arbitrators and
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where he kept entering a completely irrelevant second-hand rumor about
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Other (continued violations; Harry Elmer Barnes; Anne Norton; etc.)
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over the Easter weekend. Please accept apologies for my tardiness.
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He also seems not to understand the "no personal attacks" policy.
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Jacrosse edit-warred and did not engage in discussion at the
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The Arbitrators may analyze evidence and other assertions at
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that he presented (contrary to the source he was citing—see
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This page is not for general discussion - for that, see
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talking to other editors in order to resolve disputes
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Jacrosse reverts w/o edit summary or talk page note
728:and again (this time with an ad hominem thrown in) 55:illustrate behavior which relates to the issues. 77:. Only Arbitrators may edit /Proposed decision. 674:Jacrosse reverts, calling Cberlet a "stalinist" 232:. Finally, there was an attempt at mediation: 8: 596:leaving talk page explanation of my concerns 519:article, which is what I will now address. 397:this request for mediation and discussion 542:. Here are the diffs from that month: 391:is also instructive. In particular, see 198:. When I responded good-naturedly (see 7: 822:I will be adding evidence concering 484:resolving disputes through mediation 340:, about the dispute flag. See also 262:, and (note the tone in these two) 634:and protected the page for 8 days. 81:Evidence presented by Hydriotaphia 28: 18:Knowledge:Requests for arbitration 132:I first encountered Jacrosse at 816:Evidence presented by DuncanBCS 669:Cberlet tries a compromise edit 176:for the full edit war. 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