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to one or two users. This makes it difficult to remove them - they are not clear vandals or widespread trolls (and so do not qualify for automatic bans), however, they are trouble and bring no benefits to the encyclopaedia. They prevent editors with long edit histories that show a long record from making productive edits. They often tend to be litigious, demanding of their “rights” - which itself creates a problem, especially as our writers are here because they wish to write, not because they wish to defend 200+ of their edits in a RfC or ArbCom case. To my mind, it should be clearly stated that where ArbCom finds an account is not here in order to better the encyclopaedia, then it should be blocked.
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The biggest cause of major contributors leaving Knowledge (XXG), aside from personal circumstances, is accounts that make very little or no positive contribution to the encyclopaedia, but who are content to argue, harass, harangue and/or make occasional personal attacks. Often they attach themselves
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Jguk's summary is without diffs or links of evidence. He claims I'm litigious, yet I've never started an RFAr (I added myself to Jguk 2, which was started by someone else). Jguk, on the other hand, has been involved in numerous RfArs and RFCs, even when he doesn't edit the subject matter concerned
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2) Knowledge (XXG) does not mandate styles in many different areas; these include (but are not limited to) American vs. British spelling, date formats, and citation style. Where Knowledge (XXG) does not mandate a specific style, editors should not attempt to convert Knowledge (XXG) to their own
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is extended to include editing any page or article which relates to era notation including policy pages. He may make no change in any article from one notation to another, nor may he remove "BCE" or "CE" notations, or references to "Common Era", from any article.
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Please do not edit this page directly unless you wish to become a participant in this request. (All participants are subject to Arbitration Committee decisions, and the ArbCom will consider each participant's role in the dispute.) Comments are very welcome on the
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where jguk revert wars with article creator Kwamikagami. This pattern is repeated over hundreds of articles where the contributors commit the cardinal sin of disagreeing with jguk over his preferred styles.
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I would agree that the cause of contributors leaving Knowledge (XXG) is persistent trolling from POV pushers, who do nothing but edit war to enforce their particular POVs. Such is the case with
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Dates are not the only matter with which jguk revert wars over, but other stylistic differences, including U.S. vs US, styles for royalty, and spelling styles (British vs American spelling).
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preferred style, nor should they edit articles for the sole purpose of converting them to their preferred style, or removing examples of, or references to, styles which they dislike.
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Note: All remedies that refer to a period of time, for example to a ban of X months or a revert parole of Y months, are to run concurrently unless otherwise stated.
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4) Sortan has stalked Jguk, editing numerous articles shortly after Jguk, changing era notation, being uncivil, and otherwise unnecessarily harrassing Jguk; see
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This is a request that ArbCom rules (1) that accounts that are not being used to help improve the encyclopaedia can be banned on request to ArbCom; and (2) that
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where jguk has engaged in revert wars spanning months against the article creator PHG over date styles. A similar situation occurs at
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1) Users who focus in a disruptive way on an issue or subject may be banned from editing with respect to that issue or subject.
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2) Jguk has continued, especially in instances not covered by the plain language of the prior remedy to change era notation
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I too would urge acceptance so that Jguk's disruptive history of edit warring over styles can receive greater scrutiny.
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More specifically, reacting as if to justify past wikien-l concerns on the dangers of bringing a troll to arbitration
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2) Sortan is warned regarding stalking Jguk. He is welcome to make independent edits, but not to follow Jguk around.
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Fred, Sortan's been riding Jguk and trolling the hell out of him. That's what the RFAr is about and it's a problem -
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Perhaps David Gerard could also enlighten me how he "missed" jguk's edits as an anon during his first arbcom case?
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of reversions with editors who do contribute. One only has to look at the histories of such articles such as
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imposed in this matter. Include a link to a statement of all administrators supporting the action taken.
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Accept, Jguk continues to engage in edit warring over notation, accept to consider further action
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Knowledge (XXG):Requests for arbitration/jguk 2#Jguk banned from changing BCE to BC or CE to AD
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Perhaps David Gerard could enlighten me how my "trolling" jguk caused him to make these edits:
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1) Jguk has continued his advocacy regarding era notation with POV edits and edit warring at
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Accept, though I note that jguk's actions are not of concern to me at first blush.
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Place here the basis of any action taken under the provision of any remedy under
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Arbitrators will be working on evidence and suggesting proposed decisions at
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5) Sortan has not edited Knowledge (XXG) since December 22, 2005.
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3} From his initial edits Sortan has focused on era notation
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Jguk is apparently claiming that my reverting him here
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Arbitrators' opinions on hearing this matter (6/0/0/0)
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Jguk banned from editing with respect to era notation
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WP:ANI#Jon_Garrett_removing_references_to_Common_Era
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Index

Knowledge (XXG):Requests for arbitration
Talk page
/Evidence
/Workshop
/Proposed decision
jguk
talk
contribs
Sortan
talk
contribs
User:Sortan
Sortan
talk
contribs
Knowledge (XXG):Knowledge (XXG) is an encyclopedia
User:Sortan
Jguk
talk
contribs
deleted contribs
nuke contribs
logs
filter log
block user
block log
Sino-Roman relations
edit
talk
history

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