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1019:. Tables don't work well on various devices (hand-held screens, omitted when using Knowledge (XXG)'s PDF export function,... and the "sortability" advantage is lost in some cases). For that reason it is often a good idea to retain a structured list (or bullet list, or numbered list, ...) even when a table is provided with basically the same content. However, having two list pages with roughly the same content, one of them presenting the list content in a "sortable table" format, and the other not using table syntax for the list content, is only possible when: 35: 93: 412:
positive and negative opinions, and/or rebuttals, if available, and the original article should contain a neutral summary of the split article. There is currently no consensus whether a "Criticism of..." article is always a POV fork, but many criticism articles nevertheless suffer from POV problems.
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The most blatant POV forks are those which insert consensus-dodging content under a title that should clearly be made a redirect to an existing article; in some cases, editors have converted existing redirects into content forks. However, a new article can be a POV fork even if its title is not a
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Creating such forks can be unintentional or intentional. Although Knowledge (XXG) contributors are reminded to check to make sure there is not an existing article on the subject before they start a new article, there is always the chance they will forget, or that they will search in good faith but
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It becomes a problem when there are two articles about the exact same thing, or any two pages of the same type covering the same thing as each other, such as two outlines, two portals, two templates, two categories, etc. Imagine if 100 editors each wrote a separate article on the dog and Knowledge
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One technique sometimes used to reach consensus on difficult articles is to create a temporary copy which people can then edit to show others proposed rephrasing or other changes. This can be helpful for controversial subjects or controversial changes; editors can show others exactly what their
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However, there is a risk for article spinoffs to become POV forks. If a statement is inadmissible for content policy reasons at an article ], then it is also inadmissible at a spinoff ]. Spinoffs are intended to improve readability and navigation, not to evade Knowledge (XXG)'s content policies.
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There is a difference between article forking within Knowledge (XXG) and the legitimate practice of project-level forking. The latter occurs when someone wishes to create their own wiki, according to their own standards and practices, but they want to use Knowledge (XXG)'s content as a starting
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Content forks that are different page types covering the same subject are acceptable. Articles are not the only type of page on Knowledge (XXG) that cover subjects. Other subject-based page types include outlines, navigation footer templates, navigation sidebar templates, categories, portals,
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In contrast POV forks generally arise when contributors disagree about the content of an article or other page. Instead of resolving that disagreement by consensus, another version of the article (or another article on the same subject) is created to be developed according to a particular
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Article splits are permissible only if written from a neutral point of view. They must not be an attempt to evade the consensus process at another article. On the other hand, having a separate article on a controversial incident may give undue weight to that incident. For this reason,
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When a content fork occurs by the creation of a pair of pages of the same type (such as two articles, or two templates, or two outlines) on the same subject, it results in two different versions of the same thing, which is unacceptable. The new page in such a pair is called a
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Also, provide a link to the differently formatted list high up on the page, preferably before the TOC or first section header, so that readers can switch to the other format if that works better for the device with which they are accessing the list. Example (see
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However, just as "spinout" articles have sometimes been mistaken for POV forks, temporary subpages have been mistaken for POV forks. Care should be taken on both sides to minimize such mistakes. New drafts should be written in the "Draft:", "User:" or "Talk:"
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A page that covers the same subject as another page of the same type is often called a "redundant content fork". The most common occurrence of redundant content forks results in two articles on the same thing; the extra one is a "redundant article fork".
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Since what qualifies as a "POV fork" can itself be based on a POV judgement, it may be best not to refer to the fork as "POV" except in extreme cases of persistent disruptive editing. Instead, apply Knowledge (XXG)'s policy that requires a
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glossaries, indexes, lists, etc. Each type is designed to provide particular benefits. However, they, including corresponding articles, should not contradict each other, and any contradictory statements should be corrected or removed.
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process. Examples might be the cuisine of a particular region being forked from an article about the region in general, a filmography being forked from an article about a director, or a sub-genre being forked from its parent genre.
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Articles on distinct but related topics may well contain a significant amount of information in common with one another. This does not make either of the two articles a content fork. As an example, clearly
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If possible, refrain from using "criticism" and instead use neutral terms such as "perception" or "reception"; if the word "criticism" must be used, make sure that such criticism considers both the merits
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is a piece of content (such as an inter-wiki object, a page, or a page section) that has the same scope as another piece of content that predated it, essentially covering the same topic. A content fork is
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is preferable in most circumstances. Therefore, it is important for an editor to check, before creating a new article on a particular subject, that there isn't already an article covering that subject.
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Different articles can be legitimately created on subjects which themselves represent points of view, as long as the title clearly indicates what its subject is, the point-of-view subject is presented
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automatically make the new article a forbidden POV fork. When done properly, the resulting articles are not POV forks, and both the original and the spinoff article will comply with the
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Summary sections are used in a broader article to briefly cover the content of more detailed subarticles. Even if the subject of the new article is controversial, this does
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The creator of the new article may be sincerely convinced that there is so much information about a certain aspect of a subject that it justifies
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vision for a proposed change is – without the controversy of having that new proposed version automatically replace the existing version.
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Sometimes editors "spin off" part of an existing article to create an article focused on a sub-topic. This is done through the
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While most types of content forks are acceptable, it is especially important to watch out for the unacceptable kinds...
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synonym of an existing article's title. For example, if an editor has tried to include in an existing article about
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faults, and is not entirely negative (consider what would happen if a "Praise of..." article was created instead).
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It is worthwhile to put (usually considerable) maintenance efforts in two pages that roughly cover the same topic
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fail to find an existing article, or simply flesh out a derivative article rather than the main article on a
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The main situation where spinoff articles become necessary is when the expansion of a section creates an
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view article forking as an acceptable solution to disagreements between contributors, such forks may be
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are all about the same subject, yet they are acceptable content forks of each other and of the article
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Note, that meeting one of the descriptions listed below does not preclude something from also being a
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are acceptable, they should not contradict each other—contradictions should be corrected or removed.
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An article about domestic house cats would be an unacceptable content fork of the existing article
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a separate article. Any subarticle that deals with opinions about the subject of parent article
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Redundant content forks of page types other than articles are rarer, but they do occur.
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of the People's Republic of China would be an unacceptable content fork of the existing
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Further, in encyclopedias it is perfectly proper to have separate articles for each
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The result is often an overview article written largely in summary style, e.g.:
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Here are some examples of pages of different types that cover the same subject:
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place. As long as the new project adheres to their legal obligations under the
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are not content forks, because they do not diverge from the originals (usually
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depending on its type. Content forking is the act of creating a content fork.
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is impossible, but the consensus of editors has rejected the attempt as
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Here are some examples of pages of the same type on the same subject:
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There is a true advantage to presenting the list as a sortable table
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Article spinoffs: "Summary style" meta-articles and summary sections
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Except for the types presented above, content forks are acceptable.
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summary-style spin-offs or new, linked articles for related material
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are acceptable content forks of each other and of the article
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Knowledge (XXG):Categories, lists, and navigation templates
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will contain a significant amount of information also in
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may apply. Substantive edits to this page should reflect
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to find duplicated content on two Knowledge (XXG) pages
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Knowledge (XXG):Knowledge (XXG) is not a dictionary
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Index

Knowledge (XXG):SPINOFF
content guideline
exceptions
consensus
this guideline's talk page
Shortcut
WP:CFORK
acceptable
POV forks
pages of the same type on the same subject
acceptable
unacceptable
Transclusions
templates
summary-style spin-offs or new, linked articles for related material
different page types covering the same subject
redundant content fork
single source of truth
point of view (POV) fork
neutral point of view
undue weight
software fork
Shortcut
WP:BADFORK
Shortcuts
WP:REDUNDANTFORK
WP:SAMETYPEFORK
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outline
Outline of China

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