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I came back because I got a message saying that I was under investigation. I use
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First. I log in automatically? What sort of comment is that for an argument, can we at least make sensible defences here? And I'll repeat what I wrote on noformation's wall. " Like I said, it is widely believed in
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writing an article against the posibility of the BBC changing to BCE/CE which they've gone against. So it's a massively current topic. This guy just seems to be so flippant".
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