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Caracas2000 (who is no longer editing anyway). Since CU data is likely stale, the determination will have to be made based on behavioral evidence, so you need to provide enough behavioral evidence to make a case. Since many of the articles you identify are articles that any
Venezuelan editor would edit, what convincing evidence do you have that GJRFMorelligu and Caracas2000 are the same? If I could see the content you've deleted and linked above, I could draw conclusions about the similarity in their edits and their Spanish or English proficiency, but since those edits are revdel'd, I can't see them. For two different Venezuelan editors to cite these common sources (Venezuelatuya) on common articles (Venezuelan Presidents) isn't evidence enough (for me at least) to conclude they're the same; I'd want to see the exact content added and make comparisons of the editors' writing styles, and see some more examples of same.
375:.) Seems very odd for two independent users to have done this. It would be nice to know if Caracas 2000 has been through this whole song and dance before so we could just do an outright indef-block again if needed--and also to know if we should open a CCI automatically for GJRFMorelligu. I don't really have any evidence about Caracas1830, but he edits a lot of the same articles and it would be nice just to exclude him for sure based on the similarity of the name. Thanks.
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otherwise been involved on this page so it would be nice if you could assume a bit of good faith - I just figured that the powers that be would appropriately sort things out. I didn't believe that "I don't really have any evidence about
Caracas1830, but he edits a lot of the same articles and it would be nice just to exclude him for sure based on the similarity of the name" was a horrific accusation. To the extent that this request has caused any trouble, I'm sorry.
582:? Regardless of what you "figured" or knew at the time, it has since been pointed out to you that there is no evidence for your accusation, there is evidence against them being the same, and if you "figure" it "wouldn't be worth bothering him", perhaps you've never been accused of socking before? Would you like to strike the allegation or would you like to put up evidence?
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With you on the images (thanks for that piece) that indicate
Caracas2000 is GJRF, but if you mentioned Caracas 1830 in the analysis above, I have missed it. I see GJRF and Caracas2000, but where is the conclusion about "all three" coming from (if it's above, I'm missing it). To my knowledge, knowing
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I agree that they're probably unrelated and don't really have a sense for the SPI standards since I never come here, so deny this if it's best. I just see them editing a lot of the same articles, sometimes in close succession (but to the extent
Caracas1830 is just patrolling Venezuela-related edits
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GJRFMorelligu was (essentially) indef-blocked for image copyvios on August 5, 2007. Caracas 2000 started editing on August 9, 2007. I have just discovered (in helping go through
Caracas 2000's CCI) both users have introduced direct translation copyvios into Venezuelan presidential biographies from
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You've got one user (GJRFMorelligu) who was supposedly blocked six years ago (although he doesn't look blocked to me-- so you might want to check that), but since he hasn't edited for six years, CU data is likely to be stale. But you want to know if he is the same as
Caracas2000, so you can block
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Of course they edit the same articles-- they are generally important
Venezuelan articles, and they both (obviously) edit Venezuelan articles as you can tell by their editor name. I edit those articles, too-- does that make me a sockpuppet of one of them? Checkuser is not for fishing: unless you
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Venezuelans are (or were, before recent political deterioration) very proud of their capital city, using the name "caracas" and editing
Venezulan articles is not a reason to suspect sockpuppetry. And Caracas1830 has a good command of English. Have you notified Caracas1830 of this SPI and do you
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God, Sandy, can you not be so hysterical? I explicitly stated that I don't know all the relevant rules, and put my request up for what it's worth. If it's deficient, it will be denied. And as far as I could tell from the instructions, notification isn't mandatory. I figured, honestly, that the
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Okay, whatever. Stricken, though I don't think it makes any difference whatsoever in what the people who deal with this page with do, considering that they could have read what I wrote. No, I have never been accused of sockpuppetry, and I don't believe that I have ever reported anyone here or
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Caracas 1830 is Caracas2000, it would be most kind of you to strike or remove the allegation. Since you didn't notify either of them, I've alerted Caracas 1830, and now it will fall to me to write up a long explanation to him of what this is about.
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Caracas1830--or, alternately, that it would come back negative and it wouldn't be worth bothering him. If notification is in fact mandatory, the instructions should be revised for clarity.
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Please explain why you've included Caracas1830 in this SPI? I used to work closely with him, and I've seen no reason whatsoever to link these two editors. Caracas1830 in my recollection was a serious and knowledgeable editor. Since
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To my knowledge, Caracas 2000 never uses edit summaries, and has not displayed competency in English. The overlap in their article editing is no different than with me-- it is on common Venezuelan topics.
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701:: "I´m the author of this photo, i take it in August 2006." Why does it say in the metadata "Copyright 9,2002"? And why does it indicate the file had last been altered on 2003:01:26 20:20?
708:: "I'm the author of this photo, i take it in August 6, 2006, in a public presentation of Vidal Colmenares, Caracas, Venezuela. Guillermo Ramos Flamerich". He had originally signed this
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