Knowledge (XXG)

:Sockpuppet investigations/Gurjeshwar/Archive - Knowledge (XXG)

Source 📝

1605: 1628: 1352: 1271: 1277:. Despite the few edits, this is probably obvious enough for me to block without a CU, but there's a slim chance they know each other but are not the same person. If the puppet continues to be disruptive (their last edit was at 13:50, a few hours ago), I may block without waiting for the CU. I'm also mildly interested in sleepers in case the puppet thinks they've been caught and the user creates yet another account.-- 1637: 1214:(Response to Bbb23): I believe I answered earlier. Rana edited only when master was under block, so you won't get any overlapping edits. Also, Rana was careful to edit articles untouched by master (but still related to the Gurjar ethnicicty) - it is IP that connects them most clearly. To me, things are pretty obvious even without CU per 1240:
Everything looks pretty logical to me. The only issue I have is with the IP editor who quacks exactly the same and edits the same articles, and gets reverted the same, but overlaps with other socks if editing time is concerned. This I believe is likely a browser window in incognito mode but a CU
1107:
user about me. I become wiki user only after viewing their continuous irrelevant work and if someone wants to discussion and debate on relevant talk page, then do not do debate, but remove / revert the contents and forward the case to administrator. I hope you will be see the matter honestly.
1205:
19/11/2014 17:44 Evening comes and RoyalGurjar picks up with attacks and disruptive editing. All other accounts remain silent. He continues until I suggest under an ANI report that he is a sock of Gurjeshwar. After an angry response the account falls silent, and has been silent
1305:
for actual diffs connecting them. It's not good enough to connect Rana to the IP unless you can then connect the IP to the master. But there has to be either a direct or indirect connection, particularly given the fact that Rana has edited only two articles and made only five
1218:(unmissable spelling, punctuation, capitalisation, edit summaries, "Sirs", etc.) and edit timelines: Gurjeshwar's is a large farm with one master and a number of socks ever used only for a day or two on Gurjar-related articles, esp. when there was an edit war (includes also 1296:
added to the CU is Rana the warrior. The other two new named accounts are stale, and the IP is irrelevant to the CU. That said, I think there's less evidence presented of a connection between Rana and the master. I would therefore ask either
1165:
13/11/2014 14:45 John811jd, an account silent for a week, suddenly blanks own talk page and goes to attack Sitush on his talk page. The he then goes on to edit Gurjar-related articles until early evening, receiving several
1201:
19/11/2014 05:59 IP editor gets silent and we now see reactivation of John811jd - after four days of his silence. (Disruptive) editing continues until 06:42, then silence until evening (just as on 15/11/2014),
1597:
as part of the clerk training process. Please allow them to process the entire case without interference, and pose any questions or concerns either on their Talk page or on this page if more appropriate.
819:- possibly another attempt of block evasion. Started editing just after logging out as RoyalGurjar, then logged in again. Editing interests are the same as Gurjeshwar. Might need CU to confirm. 777:
article has long suffered from edit-warring, block evasion and socking. It has been semi'd for ages. The style of writing and the timing on this occasion certainly suggests a sock. -
1573: 1408:
I've indeffed and tagged RoyalGurjar. I've added two weeks (from now) to the master's block. I've taken no other action as the evidence presented is insufficient. Closing.--
1077: 21: 1188:
18/11/2014 11:52 Sockmaster Gurjeshwar, after further edit wars - involving Sitush and myself - gets their second block, this time for a week. Barely an hour later....
564: 1198:
18/11/2014 Gurjar-related articles are being disruptively edited by a previously unknown IP editor with the same writing style as sockmaster. They all get reverted.
1169:
14/11/2014 21:21 Rana the warrior is created and instantly goes on to edit two Gurjar-related articles (controversial edits, later reverted). All are mobile edits.
370: 1155:
Sockmaster Gurjeshwar keeps happily editing various Gurjar-related articles, getting into numerous edit wars, receiving warnings, and so on, until.... boom!
932: 751:- account for block circumvention only, opened instantly after block of puppetmaster. Its contributions consist essentially of an attack on my Talk page 273: 926: 557: 467: 852: 176: 65: 1331:, not the IP, unless you can also show a connection between the IP and the master. A CU will not normally check the IP, so that won't help you.-- 857:: suspected sock of Gurjeshwar created and active only during their first block (14-15 November); same articles as sockmaster and later IP user. 627: 1463: 1383: 846: 661: 363: 17: 433: 959:
In both articles edited by Rana the warrior, IP picked up where Rana stopped three days earlier, doing identical or nearly identical edits:
890: 336: 530: 807: 603: 266: 239: 1099:
as other writers doing. SO this prove that they are not honest and interested to solve the issue amicably as both have same agenda for
128: 1526: 884: 724: 460: 1369: 1145:
Okay, because admins do not feel like doing the work themselves and push all burden of proof on to the reporting editor, here we go.
584: 169: 409: 58: 1456: 654: 1172:
15/11/2014 08:54 It was a shortlived account - Rana saves last edit and goes silent permanently, because at the same moment...
390: 1191:
18/11/2014 13:11 RoyalGujar account gets registered and the first thing to do is attacking me on my Talk page over edits in
312: 920: 545: 506: 1551: 215: 1652: 1620: 1558: 1417: 1399: 1340: 1315: 1286: 1254: 1232: 1136: 1117: 1057: 1031: 951: 909: 867: 829: 786: 767: 293: 104: 1502: 700: 487: 1152:
caste in India, and all of them introduced the same, biased information which was then reverted by other editors.
196: 1390:, however the determination as to whether this is actual socking or MEAT will need to made based on behaviour.-- 1377: 840: 351: 915: 85: 1178:
15/11/2014 17:24 Sockmaster Gurjeshwar gets unblocked and soon starts editing. All other accounts fall silent.
1483: 801: 681: 254: 1373: 835: 1648: 878: 448: 1616: 1363: 1113: 795: 157: 1175:
15/11/2014 08:52 John811jd picks up editing Gurjar stuff on computer, and carries on for an hour or so.
1327:
as I attempted to make clear in my request, you need diffs showing a connection between Rana and the
46: 1444: 1044: 642: 1251: 1229: 1054: 1028: 963: 948: 906: 864: 826: 764: 938: 896: 1093:
as both are involve in edit war parallely with other users. They are doing same mistakes about
813: 1644: 1611:- This is obvious enough to not require CU attention. Please block the new sock indefinitely. 873: 1215: 1612: 1604: 1594: 1359: 1132: 1109: 1086: 1018:
As to possible connection between IP and the master, it was to be checked by CU if I recall.
782: 748: 1195:, and then voicing support to sockmaster on their ANI entry; he then falls silent at 13:50. 1627: 1413: 1387: 1336: 1311: 1282: 1009:
https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Tomara_clan&diff=634368623&oldid=634368257
975:
https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Tomara_clan&diff=634368257&oldid=634368082
970:
https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Tomara_clan&diff=633916814&oldid=633904231
1219: 1047:
also belongs to the same farm, although it was blocked by an admin after just 4 edits.
899:- same articles, same lousy style, same edit summaries, although a sleeper these days. 1534: 1322: 1298: 1246: 1224: 1049: 1023: 943: 901: 859: 821: 759: 732: 1270: 1004:
https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Baisla&diff=633859565&oldid=622252679
994:
https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Baisla&diff=634367435&oldid=633957931
989:
https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Baisla&diff=633902633&oldid=633901316
1158:
13/11/2014 17:24 Gurjeshwar gets blocked for 48 hours as a result of edit war with
941:, albeit sleeper: article overlap, lousy editing style, and finally... username. 1302: 1292:
When I endorsed the CU, the only puppet was RoyalGurjar. The only account to be
1159: 1128: 1104: 778: 1409: 1391: 1332: 1307: 1278: 540: 346: 1090: 1000:
They both have utter disregard for capitalisation and punctuation rules:
249: 1149: 982: 774: 1572:
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See
1544: 1148:
All the editors mentioned below only edited articles related to the
1076:
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See
742: 443: 152: 41: 1439: 637: 1100: 1095: 754:
and malicious reporting me for edit war with sockmaster
1520: 1513: 1509: 1496: 1489: 1476: 1470: 1450: 1124: 1008: 1003: 993: 988: 974: 969: 755: 752: 718: 711: 707: 694: 687: 674: 668: 648: 621: 614: 610: 597: 590: 577: 571: 551: 524: 517: 513: 500: 493: 480: 474: 454: 427: 420: 416: 403: 396: 383: 377: 357: 330: 323: 319: 306: 299: 286: 280: 260: 233: 226: 222: 209: 202: 189: 183: 163: 122: 115: 111: 98: 91: 78: 72: 52: 1015:
And both edited only at the time of master's blocks.
1586:Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments 1264:Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments 8: 18:Knowledge (XXG):Sockpuppet investigations 1127:seems to have gone astray somewhere. - 1103:. Now they are both complaining for 1550:Clear cut intersection of last edits. 1241:could confirm/exclude this suspicion. 7: 1245: 1223: 1085:Please examine also the writers Mr. 1048: 1022: 942: 900: 858: 820: 758: 28: 1643:please tag the master as needed. 1574:Defending yourself against claims 1078:Defending yourself against claims 1635: 1626: 1603: 1350: 1269: 1593:This case is being reviewed by 1222:in addition to all the above). 1609:Awaiting administrative action 1: 1653:19:25, 22 November 2017 (UTC) 1621:16:56, 22 November 2017 (UTC) 1559:05:57, 22 November 2017 (UTC) 1418:01:30, 21 November 2014 (UTC) 1400:18:17, 19 November 2014 (UTC) 1341:05:32, 19 November 2014 (UTC) 1316:01:13, 19 November 2014 (UTC) 1287:17:44, 18 November 2014 (UTC) 1255:20:43, 20 November 2014 (UTC) 1233:08:57, 19 November 2014 (UTC) 1137:23:54, 19 November 2014 (UTC) 1118:18:03, 19 November 2014 (UTC) 1058:01:31, 20 November 2014 (UTC) 1032:01:33, 19 November 2014 (UTC) 952:23:35, 18 November 2014 (UTC) 910:23:27, 18 November 2014 (UTC) 868:23:18, 18 November 2014 (UTC) 830:23:11, 18 November 2014 (UTC) 787:15:09, 18 November 2014 (UTC) 768:14:14, 18 November 2014 (UTC) 1641:Clerk assistance requested: 1670: 1545:Editor interaction utility 1539:Auto-generated every hour. 743:Editor interaction utility 737:Auto-generated every hour. 1565:Comments by other users 1069:Comments by other users 1432:Suspected sockpuppets 1021:Hope this clarifies. 145:Suspected sockpuppets 1535:User compare report 916:BaIsLa KuNaL GuRjAr 733:User compare report 541:BaIsLa KuNaL GuRjAr 1632:Blocked and tagged 1578: 1541: 1082: 739: 1661: 1639: 1638: 1630: 1607: 1598: 1570: 1556: 1537: 1531: 1529: 1492: 1466: 1464:deleted contribs 1442: 1427:22 November 2017 1397: 1374:Rana the warrior 1354: 1353: 1326: 1273: 1265: 1253: 1249: 1231: 1227: 1183:Three days pass. 1125:original comment 1074: 1070: 1056: 1052: 1030: 1026: 950: 946: 936: 908: 904: 894: 866: 862: 856: 836:Rana the warrior 828: 824: 818: 817: 798: 766: 762: 749:User:RoyalGurjar 735: 729: 727: 690: 664: 662:deleted contribs 640: 632: 630: 593: 567: 565:deleted contribs 543: 535: 533: 496: 470: 468:deleted contribs 446: 438: 436: 399: 373: 371:deleted contribs 349: 347:Rana the warrior 341: 339: 302: 276: 274:deleted contribs 252: 244: 242: 205: 179: 177:deleted contribs 155: 139:18 November 2014 133: 131: 94: 68: 66:deleted contribs 44: 1669: 1668: 1664: 1663: 1662: 1660: 1659: 1658: 1636: 1592: 1589: 1587: 1568: 1566: 1552: 1505: 1479: 1459: 1438: 1437: 1434: 1429: 1392: 1386:) are socks of 1351: 1320: 1267: 1263: 1247: 1225: 1072: 1068: 1050: 1024: 944: 918: 902: 876: 860: 838: 822: 799: 794: 793: 760: 703: 677: 657: 636: 635: 606: 580: 560: 539: 538: 509: 483: 463: 442: 441: 412: 386: 366: 345: 344: 315: 289: 269: 248: 247: 218: 192: 172: 151: 150: 142: 140: 107: 81: 61: 40: 39: 36: 26: 25: 24: 12: 11: 5: 1667: 1665: 1657: 1656: 1655: 1623: 1588: 1585: 1583: 1581: 1567: 1564: 1562: 1548: 1547: 1542: 1532: 1433: 1430: 1428: 1425: 1424: 1423: 1422: 1421: 1420: 1403: 1402: 1346: 1345: 1344: 1343: 1275:Clerk endorsed 1266: 1261: 1260: 1259: 1258: 1257: 1242: 1220:User:John811jd 1212: 1211: 1210: 1209: 1208: 1207: 1203: 1199: 1196: 1189: 1185: 1184: 1180: 1179: 1176: 1173: 1170: 1167: 1163: 1156: 1146: 1140: 1139: 1071: 1066: 1065: 1064: 1063: 1062: 1061: 1060: 1037: 1036: 1035: 1034: 1019: 1016: 1013: 1012: 1011: 1006: 998: 997: 996: 991: 979: 978: 977: 972: 960: 872:Additionally, 790: 789: 746: 745: 740: 730: 633: 536: 439: 342: 245: 147: 146: 141: 138: 136: 135: 134: 35: 32: 30: 27: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 1666: 1654: 1650: 1646: 1642: 1633: 1629: 1624: 1622: 1618: 1614: 1610: 1606: 1602: 1601: 1600: 1599: 1596: 1584: 1582: 1579: 1577: 1575: 1563: 1561: 1560: 1557: 1555: 1554:Winged Blades 1546: 1543: 1540: 1536: 1533: 1528: 1525: 1522: 1519: 1515: 1511: 1508: 1504: 1501: 1498: 1495: 1491: 1488: 1485: 1482: 1478: 1475: 1472: 1469: 1465: 1462: 1458: 1455: 1452: 1449: 1446: 1441: 1436: 1435: 1431: 1426: 1419: 1415: 1411: 1407: 1406: 1405: 1404: 1401: 1398: 1396: 1389: 1385: 1382: 1379: 1375: 1371: 1368: 1365: 1361: 1357: 1348: 1347: 1342: 1338: 1334: 1330: 1324: 1319: 1318: 1317: 1313: 1309: 1304: 1300: 1295: 1291: 1290: 1289: 1288: 1284: 1280: 1276: 1272: 1262: 1256: 1252: 1250: 1243: 1239: 1238: 1237: 1236: 1235: 1234: 1230: 1228: 1221: 1217: 1204: 1200: 1197: 1194: 1190: 1187: 1186: 1182: 1181: 1177: 1174: 1171: 1168: 1164: 1161: 1157: 1154: 1153: 1151: 1147: 1144: 1143: 1142: 1141: 1138: 1134: 1130: 1126: 1122: 1121: 1120: 1119: 1115: 1111: 1106: 1102: 1098: 1097: 1092: 1088: 1083: 1081: 1079: 1067: 1059: 1055: 1053: 1046: 1045:User:Mukt_ash 1043: 1042: 1041: 1040: 1039: 1038: 1033: 1029: 1027: 1020: 1017: 1014: 1010: 1007: 1005: 1002: 1001: 999: 995: 992: 990: 987: 986: 984: 980: 976: 973: 971: 968: 967: 965: 961: 958: 957: 956: 955: 954: 953: 949: 947: 940: 934: 931: 928: 925: 922: 917: 914:Another one: 912: 911: 907: 905: 898: 892: 889: 886: 883: 880: 875: 870: 869: 865: 863: 854: 851: 848: 845: 842: 837: 832: 831: 827: 825: 815: 812: 809: 806: 803: 797: 796:49.202.60.236 788: 784: 780: 776: 772: 771: 770: 769: 765: 763: 756: 753: 750: 744: 741: 738: 734: 731: 726: 723: 720: 717: 713: 709: 706: 702: 699: 696: 693: 689: 686: 683: 680: 676: 673: 670: 667: 663: 660: 656: 653: 650: 647: 644: 639: 634: 629: 626: 623: 620: 616: 612: 609: 605: 602: 599: 596: 592: 589: 586: 583: 579: 576: 573: 570: 566: 563: 559: 556: 553: 550: 547: 542: 537: 532: 529: 526: 523: 519: 515: 512: 508: 505: 502: 499: 495: 492: 489: 486: 482: 479: 476: 473: 469: 466: 462: 459: 456: 453: 450: 445: 440: 435: 432: 429: 426: 422: 418: 415: 411: 408: 405: 402: 398: 395: 392: 389: 385: 382: 379: 376: 372: 369: 365: 362: 359: 356: 353: 348: 343: 338: 335: 332: 329: 325: 321: 318: 314: 311: 308: 305: 301: 298: 295: 292: 288: 285: 282: 279: 275: 272: 268: 265: 262: 259: 256: 251: 250:49.202.60.236 246: 241: 238: 235: 232: 228: 224: 221: 217: 214: 211: 208: 204: 201: 198: 195: 191: 188: 185: 182: 178: 175: 171: 168: 165: 162: 159: 154: 149: 148: 144: 143: 137: 130: 127: 124: 121: 117: 113: 110: 106: 103: 100: 97: 93: 90: 87: 84: 80: 77: 74: 71: 67: 64: 60: 57: 54: 51: 48: 43: 38: 37: 33: 31: 23: 19: 1645:TonyBallioni 1640: 1631: 1608: 1591: 1590: 1580: 1571: 1569: 1553: 1549: 1538: 1523: 1517: 1506: 1499: 1493: 1486: 1480: 1473: 1467: 1460: 1453: 1447: 1394: 1380: 1366: 1355: 1328: 1293: 1274: 1268: 1213: 1192: 1094: 1084: 1075: 1073: 929: 923: 913: 887: 881: 874:Kunal_gurjar 871: 849: 843: 833: 810: 804: 791: 747: 736: 721: 715: 704: 697: 691: 684: 678: 671: 665: 658: 651: 645: 624: 618: 607: 600: 594: 587: 581: 574: 568: 561: 554: 548: 527: 521: 510: 503: 497: 490: 484: 477: 471: 464: 457: 451: 444:Kunal gurjar 430: 424: 413: 406: 400: 393: 387: 380: 374: 367: 360: 354: 333: 327: 316: 309: 303: 296: 290: 283: 277: 270: 263: 257: 236: 230: 219: 212: 206: 199: 193: 186: 180: 173: 166: 160: 125: 119: 108: 101: 95: 88: 82: 75: 69: 62: 55: 49: 29: 1613:Sir Sputnik 1595:Sir Sputnik 1521:investigate 1360:RoyalGurjar 1110:RoyalGurjar 1105:sock puppet 964:Tomara clan 719:investigate 622:investigate 525:investigate 428:investigate 331:investigate 234:investigate 153:RoyalGurjar 123:investigate 1484:block user 1477:filter log 1393:Jezebel's 1388:Gurjeshwar 682:block user 675:filter log 585:block user 578:filter log 488:block user 481:filter log 391:block user 384:filter log 294:block user 287:filter log 197:block user 190:filter log 86:block user 79:filter log 42:Gurjeshwar 34:Gurjeshwar 22:Gurjeshwar 1510:CheckUser 1497:block log 1490:spi block 1440:Ivanravin 1244:Regards, 708:CheckUser 695:block log 688:spi block 638:John811jd 611:CheckUser 598:block log 591:spi block 514:CheckUser 501:block log 494:spi block 417:CheckUser 404:block log 397:spi block 320:CheckUser 307:block log 300:spi block 223:CheckUser 210:block log 203:spi block 112:CheckUser 99:block log 92:spi block 1457:contribs 1384:contribs 1370:contribs 1356:Possible 1323:Kashmiri 1306:edits.-- 1299:Kashmiri 1294:possibly 1248:kashmiri 1226:kashmiri 1166:reverts. 1108:Thanks, 1091:Kashmiri 1051:kashmiri 1025:kashmiri 945:kashmiri 939:WP:QUACK 927:contribs 903:kashmiri 897:WP:QUACK 885:contribs 861:kashmiri 847:contribs 823:kashmiri 808:contribs 761:kashmiri 655:contribs 558:contribs 461:contribs 364:contribs 267:contribs 170:contribs 59:contribs 20:‎ | 1216:WP:DUCK 1202:when... 834:Adding 792:Adding 1527:cuwiki 1372:) and 1329:master 1303:Sitush 1206:since. 1193:Gurjar 1160:Sitush 1150:Gurjar 1129:Sitush 1087:Sitush 983:Baisla 937:, per 779:Sitush 775:Gurjar 725:cuwiki 628:cuwiki 531:cuwiki 434:cuwiki 337:cuwiki 240:cuwiki 129:cuwiki 1625:Sock 1410:Bbb23 1395:Ponyo 1358:that 1349:It's 1333:Bbb23 1308:Bbb23 1279:Bbb23 933:count 891:count 853:count 814:WHOIS 16:< 1649:talk 1617:talk 1471:logs 1445:talk 1414:talk 1378:talk 1364:talk 1337:talk 1312:talk 1283:talk 1133:talk 1114:talk 1089:and 921:talk 895:per 879:talk 841:talk 802:talk 783:talk 773:The 669:logs 643:talk 572:logs 546:talk 475:logs 449:talk 378:logs 352:talk 281:logs 255:talk 184:logs 158:talk 73:logs 47:talk 1514:log 1451:tag 1301:or 1123:My 1101:3RR 1096:3RR 981:In 962:In 712:log 649:tag 615:log 552:tag 518:log 455:tag 421:log 358:tag 324:log 261:tag 227:log 164:tag 116:log 53:tag 1651:) 1634:. 1619:) 1516:) 1503:CA 1416:) 1339:) 1314:) 1285:) 1135:) 1116:) 985:: 966:: 785:) 757:. 714:) 701:CA 617:) 604:CA 520:) 507:CA 423:) 410:CA 326:) 313:CA 229:) 216:CA 118:) 105:CA 1647:( 1615:( 1576:. 1530:) 1524:· 1518:· 1512:( 1507:· 1500:· 1494:· 1487:· 1481:· 1474:· 1468:· 1461:· 1454:· 1448:· 1443:( 1412:( 1381:· 1376:( 1367:· 1362:( 1335:( 1325:: 1321:@ 1310:( 1281:( 1162:. 1131:( 1112:( 1080:. 935:) 930:· 924:· 919:( 893:) 888:· 882:· 877:( 855:) 850:· 844:· 839:( 816:) 811:· 805:· 800:( 781:( 728:) 722:· 716:· 710:( 705:· 698:· 692:· 685:· 679:· 672:· 666:· 659:· 652:· 646:· 641:( 631:) 625:· 619:· 613:( 608:· 601:· 595:· 588:· 582:· 575:· 569:· 562:· 555:· 549:· 544:( 534:) 528:· 522:· 516:( 511:· 504:· 498:· 491:· 485:· 478:· 472:· 465:· 458:· 452:· 447:( 437:) 431:· 425:· 419:( 414:· 407:· 401:· 394:· 388:· 381:· 375:· 368:· 361:· 355:· 350:( 340:) 334:· 328:· 322:( 317:· 310:· 304:· 297:· 291:· 284:· 278:· 271:· 264:· 258:· 253:( 243:) 237:· 231:· 225:( 220:· 213:· 207:· 200:· 194:· 187:· 181:· 174:· 167:· 161:· 156:( 132:) 126:· 120:· 114:( 109:· 102:· 96:· 89:· 83:· 76:· 70:· 63:· 56:· 50:· 45:(

Index

Knowledge (XXG):Sockpuppet investigations
Gurjeshwar
Gurjeshwar
talk
tag
contribs
deleted contribs
logs
filter log
block user
spi block
block log
CA
CheckUser
log
investigate
cuwiki
RoyalGurjar
talk
tag
contribs
deleted contribs
logs
filter log
block user
spi block
block log
CA
CheckUser
log

Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.